And you saw that with David Grush and you saw the pushback from intelligence agencies with David Grush where they went after his PTSD records and they were just leaked to some shill asked journalist you know to try to discredit him that should tell you a lot too.
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I think that could have partly been down to a lot of the questions put to him and who they were put from and then like I say Michael Shellenberger again highly respected journalist you could have sat a cardboard cut out there you know and you'd have probably got similar and just attached a document to them because he representing someone else's story you know so I don't know if part of that is just the impact that the the grush hearing had and the kind of bombshells and the
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That they're you know looking through psionics to pull in craft and all that okay cool show us like that's really cool we should hear you out but let's get back to that first part so you say you're part of a crash retrieval program David Grush said that that we do that and now you're saying you're part of it I think a lot of attention should be put on that we should try to unravel the physical tangible hardcore roles that people had in government either keeping the UFO secret.
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What disappointed me and again I spoke to Timbert Shit about this the day after the hearing was I was surprised to hear they still hadn't had grush in that skiff almost 18 months on from that original hearing and I said at the time of the grush hearing I think I say that's about a lot of stuff the importance of it or the legacy of something will be what happens in the future what comes of it regardless of the statements and who makes them in the power of them.
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If nothing happens off the back of it David grush is coming forward is almost for nothing in a way and I imagine that for a straights him what is your take on grush coming out in July 2023 and here we are and as far as we know he's still not been in those skiffs.
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So I can't give you more insight to that it's just not it's inappropriate for me to give more insight I think people need to speak for themselves but all is not lost like you know David grush has given plenty of testimony to work with I am a little baffled why some of what he testified to wasn't followed up on yeah.
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