But and it was a guy Jeff Stagansky and you can look him up.
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So I told Jeff, I said, there's a lot of respect for him. And he was very helpful for me.
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And I was going to like burn that bridge. But I was like, sure, Jeff. Yeah, I'll, oh, yeah, I'll definitely look into that while I'm over there. Yeah, sure.
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What was the guy? So I asked Jeff one time. This is interesting.
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But he worked on a movie with him way back in the day. And he apparently pulled Jeff aside and said, Jackie Gleason.
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And Jackie Gleason said to Jeff, according to Jeff told me this, I don't care what anybody ever tells you.
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But he said that to Jeff way back. Wow. It might have been the 70s. Yeah, off the record. Yeah, just like.
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