2017

left the Pentagon in 2017.

so 2010 to probably 2017 16 probably you know to say like once every couple months people

into I do want to say you allegedly left the Pentagon in 2017 do you guys ever really leave come on

you have any disclosure that you've done including this book and everything since 2017 you've

What happened is a couple of insiders in December of 2017

And you could you could easily push back and say the last six or seven years post 2017.

And I was one of three journalists who broke the story in December of 2017 about the Department of Defense Secret Program studying UFOs.

Like I remember when, you know, 2017, you know, New York Times article, the evidence that I remember had some family members go.

They go, they look at the data that's been, you know, revealed post-2017.

2017 now, but hey, I've seen efforts to get the stuff out and we are making progress.

And now that has escalated between 2017 and today, 2024 exponentially, in my opinion,

It was her biggest story in 2017, right?

The public's interest in UFOs started rising after the New York Times published an article in 2017,

the time is that obviously since 2017 when Chris Mellon walked out of the Pentagon and put this

till 2017 yeah it was this yeah Steven Spielberg might make a movie yeah we'll get a good

after 2017 there was a shift where suddenly there was like a decision to pull it more mainstream

actual like reverse engineering programs like Elizondo to me 2017 is definitely like pushing the

because you have colleagues of grushes coming out you published the 2017 stuff why wouldn't you

In 2017, after trying to brief general mad dog Mattis on UFOs

for a bombshell article that was released in 2017.

Yeah, right. And it's like it's a fire in a madhouse and just all this chaos is happening because you know we're on the precipice of just a massive paradigm shift and I that's what it like intuitively and inside of me, it's even part of my interest in me pursuing this topic is because I really feel like we're at the cusp of something really major happening and and a part of that is, you know, your efforts and you know throughout the past two decades and you know 2017 was just putting the videos in a on a platform that we're going to be able to do.

I mean, since 2017, the Tick-Tack thing came out and that changed the whole playing field.

The program was reportedly initiated in 2017 following the Pentagon's admission of the ATIP program.

When I saw the 2017 New York Times article in the videos that were released, I realized

He says no idea about age not my specialty and asking about it would have been a net negative especially now he says and he probably says especially now because of the sort of disclosure this is post 2017 New York Times bit you know.

And then in 2017, things changed.

Before 2017, of course, it was just ridicule.

It wasn't until the New York Times article came out in 2017 and I saw the video that

In 2017, as a private citizen, he served graciously acquired the three Navy videos and leaked

It was only in 2017 when the New York Times article came out that my interest was really

They worked with Leslie Keane, who was present today, Ralph Luehnthal, and Helene Cooper to publish the articles in the New York Times 2017 New York Times.

I went there in like 2017, 2018, something like that.

you think of, you know, Luel Zondo has been out for a while now, you know, since 2017, he was kind of

New York Times released in 2017 that the Pentagon admitted was real in 2020.

guess what we got these Navy pilots that are saying that they had to talk a UFO. Yeah, well that was that was in 2017, but that but you're you're hitting the court. All of a sudden and by the way, I flew to Washington DC during all this and handed my investigation with photos code. What year is this 2022. Yeah. Okay. Well, so a couple of months after I'm in Washington DC going to congressional offices handing over this.