years

it would take you 50,000 to 80,000 years in a chemical combustion rocket.

And if you somehow figured out a way to live for thousands of years,

Over the last 70 years, Brown's experiments never went away.

Ever since, you know, we connected a couple years ago because I made this Townsend Brown documentary.

It was founded about 26 years ago by Dr. Carlos Galle, a physicist who spent a summer working at Kennedy Space Center, came back the following year and started the lab.

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So Dr. Carlos Galle formed a research arm of that test about 26 years ago.

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But we actually have many dust mitigation technologies that we've developed over the years.

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So you work 25 years on something, you finally get it to the moon and it works.

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After 25 years, it's a lot of sunk cost, a lot of time and effort and energy.

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So, you know, I've been in electrostatics for 26 years and it's been around, obviously,

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And if you could, it would take you 80,000 years with current, current speeds.

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He knew about us working on this independently for years and never told us.

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He has been an engineer for, gosh, 35 years or so.

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We have some experiments with barium titanate a couple of years ago.

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So after Drew and I did these experiments in 2016, I think we spent about two years trying to package it.

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It took a lot of effort those two years to get the sucker packaged up in a way so it can actually be transportable and confined.

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We don't need 30,000, 40,000 volts like we did 10 years ago.

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The peer review and all of that's going to take 20 years.

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I don't know if it'll take 20 years.

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And my hope is that 30 years is a way overestimate.

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Many years later, my wife and I experienced this.

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This is maybe 10 years ago.

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And maybe 12 years ago.

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A couple years in by then, for sure.

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This is like maybe seven, eight years later.

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I've been 10 years further ahead.

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And we've been flying with Boeing 747s or equivalents, you know, for the last 60 years.

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And it was because of, you know, quanta, which Planck discovered 40 years later.

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I tried that for 15, 20 years.

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No, I mean, I haven't done QED in 26 years.

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that's where I started. And it wasn't until after two years working with Drew, I said, Oh, Drew's got

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My wife pointed that out. And so I did the test. So for two years, we thought that's what the case

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