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It was really quite extraordinary.

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And then, of course, having just met, we go get in a car and start driving around California looking for UFO stories.

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And what Ryan Graves' evidence shows is that it is a national security issue.

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It is a flight safety issue.

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But let's talk about what those normal excuses were going back to 47 through the 50s, the 60s, the 70s, the 80s.

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With the same types of objects swarming their ships.

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Wow.

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But one thing for sure, we don't have technology like that.

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Not known.

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I thought he had a lot of interesting things to say and a whole new perspective.

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In particular, Bryce, one of the things that he drew our attention to was quite interesting magnetic anomalies.

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But I guess my sense is whether they do or they don't do all of those things, it's time for us, the people, to sort of take this on ourselves.

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We've got the technology. We've got the data. We can generate new data.

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Not at that altitude.

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You consider that they're falling at about 17,500 miles an hour.

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He's one of the most reputable immunologists on the planet, extremely well regarded.

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He's got multiple patents, huge numbers of papers that have been published in his name.

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So you don't think it's human?

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I'm sure it's not human.

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Now, having said that and talked about how incredibly potent he is as a communicator on this issue, I have to say, we need to bring up the whole concept of the Wilson Davis memo.

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Now, I know there are people listening and watching who go, I don't know what that is.

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And as you said, Ross, it wants to say that there is a crash retrieval and reverse engineering program not being done right now by the U.S. government, but being done by private enterprise.

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Now, why would that happen?

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It would happen because the Department of Defense and the government knows that these FOIA, Freedom of Information, requests can pull documents out of the U.S. government.

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But there's no way to pull a document out of a private enterprise.

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So that may explain a lot of things.

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Yeah, I don't think we can overestimate the significance of somebody like Professor Gary Nolan, who's a close personal friend of Eric Davis,

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and very much an insider.

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The thing about Gary is he's plugged into the intelligence community.

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He's been working with the CIA, doing secret investigations for the CIA into military and intelligence personnel, including pilots, who've been exposed to UAPs.

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He's very highly valued and very well regarded inside the U.S. intelligence and defense community.

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So to have somebody of his reputation saying what he says is quite awe inspiring.

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It was March or so.

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And I delivered his paper.

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And nobody can do anything about it.

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So if that was happening, you'd say, well, why wouldn't the, you know, why does the government not disclose what it knows?