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which included the Eastern Space and Missile Center, Cape Canaveral Air Force Station, Patrick Air Force Base,
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And so that's part of what's some of the problem in the Bermuda Triangle, which this was in.
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This is so interesting because I just met with a former NASA engineer out here.
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Okay, the 45th Space Wing owned everything at the Cape Patrick Air Force Base, Eastern Space and Missile Center,
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and some other things that we won't be discussing.
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Guys, as you can tell, Dr. Rogers was keeping some information and speculation about the company EG&G to himself here.
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But this is one of those histories I can't resist unpacking.
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This was one of the high-altitude nuclear detonations that occurred in the Marshall Islands,
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and it was unique because there is a lot of documentation leading me to believe that a UFO fell out of the plume,
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But debris or images?
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A 1982 phone book from the lab lists Lazar right there among the other scientists and technicians.
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EG&G, which is where Lazar says he was interviewed for the job at S4, also has no records.
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For instance, in 1991, a caller into a Las Vegas radio show claimed he was hired to run
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electricity 3,000 feet underground on a certain test site, a job that came through Reynolds
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In this meeting, Wilson expressed extreme frustration at a covert UFO reverse engineering program
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being hidden from him.
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The mysterious flight disappearance of Flight 19 that Rogers mentioned earlier?
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Well, he sat down at his computer console.
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began to rotate clockwise and went one full circle 360 degrees.
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Then it paused for a few moments, and then it rotated back 360 degrees the other way
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That would have been a little bit of a big thing for Raytheon by themselves.
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But they could have certainly been in partnership with the consortium,
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We want you to build this many F-117s.
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And so they modified it and improved it and then made the actual F-117.
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So at that point, the Air Force owned it.
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But when it was Have Blue and it was the preliminary designs,
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the U.S. Air Force did not own that, even though it had U.S. Air Force markings.
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It was owned by Lockheed Skunk Works.
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And so you're looking at this craft.
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Do you have any sense of, outside of the U.S. Air Force insignia on it,
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whether it is extraterrestrial or not from here or whether it is from here?
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When I saw this thing, I looked over at the guy and I said,
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who would design something like that?
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And he said, I can't tell you.
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But then when I said, well, why would we build it in a design like this?
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This is exactly what he did.
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He looked at me and went, we got it from them.
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So, I mean, I don't have to figure out what that means.
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So they may have been feeding electricity to it.
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They may have been feeding electrical controls, whatever.
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I am not going to report this thing.
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He didn't know who you were, essentially, right?
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Well, he knew who I was.
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A lot of these people probably have asymmetric relationships with you.
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Like, they're very grateful to you.
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I know you're not supposed to watch this, but I know you work on the space shuttle, so
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And so, you know, when I was on the submarine, they took me into the sonar room.
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And he's meeting with Dr. Eric Davis, and they're in the EG&G parking lot.
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And he's expressing extreme frustration that he doesn't have oversight over these sort of
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And then also on the exotic propulsion side.
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They were also in charge of atomic testing.
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the room and said, what were you just talking about?
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And just on the other side, there was an air defense artillery battery.
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As soon as we climbed, we were not staying low level anymore.
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So I decided, you know, when I retire, I'm going to tell my story whether they like it or not.
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And people would say all this kind of stuff, and yet in his mind, he wasn't a hero.
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And so I had to go and collect urine samples from him, blood samples from him.
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And I had to gather up the rest of his body and try to get as much of his body together as we could before we shipped it off for an autopsy.
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And I said, what did I do then?
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And she said, well, you just sat there.
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And so within a very short time, we went from this plasma-filled universe to the first atoms that were made.
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And the universe was completely clear.
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I would say, you know, I believe in God.
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And so when you try to scale it to a cosmological model, you have this sort of error propagation and you're like way off.
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And then you have to come up with placeholders like dark matter, which is this glue which explains gravity, gravity's weakness or cosmic inflation, which is sort of the expansion of the universe.
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Where if you were to ask a physicist what what fundamental force is represented in cosmic inflation, they wouldn't have an answer for you.
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They'd say some sort of repulsive form of gravity.
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They'd say anti-gravity.
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And so you end up, I think, in like, you know, this crazy kind of hyperspace, like just trying to make the math work to comport with our human very limited epistemology.
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There are all these issues with the cosmological constant.
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I mean, we could go on for for for a long time as far as issues with cosmology.
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So I think none of that you can't use science to discount God because, I mean, the the the universe is just so miraculous and the earth is somewhere.
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Well, chirality means that there is something that is going to occur in which you you can have one version and you can have the opposite version.
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If you take the carbon of the methane molecule and you have four hydrogen molecules and let's just say 12, three, six and nine.
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If it's at the if the chlorine is at the three o'clock position, it's going to turn it to the left.
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So you say, hey, I'm going to Vegas.
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Uh, I'm going to find, um, a casino where I can flip a nickel and, uh, bet on it.
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They were not going to give Einstein the credit he needed for relativity.
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General relativity was known as a novel curiosity until 1957.
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And so recovering a craft in 47, well, okay, you have all the details to it, but you can't make it.
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we just have to correct for it, and then we're finished.
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That's never how it works.
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and short institutions over the next, you know, 10 years.
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I think in many ways we might have a,
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what if we put it on the back of a 747?
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And they said, shut up.
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So that's amazing because most people would say Copernicus,
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you know, 16th century, pre-Galileo, you know, actually observing it.
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It's like, I think a lot of, you know,
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this sort of modern version of intelligence is just,
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it becomes a spinning,
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this meant and what,
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you wouldn't have like a TV,
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we were able to make some progression,
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but it was easier to just drop a bunch of aluminum pieces and call it window
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that's the one that we used before desert storm.
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