Russians

I met with these officials who, you know, during that time period, glasnost, perestroika, the Russians were trying to open up to the world.

What happened to the Russians that came forward to you in 1993, and were there any repercussions for them?

If we are racing for it, to master that technology against the Russians and the Chinese, which is what I have been told by Senator Reid and many others, then it is a race that's critical to our survival.

Two of those pilots died. And after that, the Russians changed the standing order.

And the Russians didn't either.

There's a price to be paid for that too. The Russians and Chinese are trying to figure this, this out as well, but they're, they don't have the same kind of stigma.

As I understand it with your computer because of the Russians, you don't know it's the Russians.

Russians.

So I saw Chinese, I saw Russians, I saw other scientists.

I wonder if that was the big thing that made the Russians leave.

Is the Russians disparted.

And they were working very closely with the Russians.

And if you're working with the Russians,

get the Russians out of here,

Whereas the two Russian incidents, we were there to watch the Russians,

and their Russians interactions with this technology.

And they plopped a big report down on the desk about like that and said, look, the Russians have been spending millions of dollars at their best institutes trying to use ESP for their own purposes.

And they said, does that mean if we have all kinds of classified documents and the superconducting is safe, the Russians might be able to, you know, reach in and see them?

And we went in and got it before the Russians could find it.

The Russians came up with an idea.

but nonetheless we and the Russians kind of marched along step by step.

just describe the events and that analysis of the event of the Russians having

And then after I guess that, the Russians developed a no hands down, no shoot policy against

approached by the CIA actually to plant faults, intelligence information with Russians.

Some Russians had approached him for some, I don't know exactly what he was doing but he got

by the Russians satellites. Wow. So that was the goal there. That was how it started. Yeah, that's

There's a couple of examples of experiments that were done by the Russians

We returned everything on it to the Russians.

where the Russians and the British, vis-a-vis Afghanistan, you're not going to win.

But we're not going to reveal those secrets to the Russians or the Chinese potential adversaries.

it'll throw off the Russians and they won't know what we really have going on.

Well that's the Lazar rumor as well, which is that like Russians were at Area 51, too,

with the Russians on the UFO question because we were worried that they'd mistake it

I think in the Lazar account, it's like the Russians started to get kicked out as like