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in in steps yeah how did this whole documentary start out for you so it's a kind of long origin
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story i would say so you know i'm 46 and my childhood's the 80s and early 90s and grew up
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also made us super curious about this topic and so my my whole life uh just been interested in the
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life from elsewhere um but elements of the u.s government have been covering it up um so i've
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real the situation around this topic was and so i got connected to some senior intelligence officials
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it very serious and does know a lot more than the public does so in those those conversations um
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that thing that i direct to and so um it's sort of like the the origin and then um
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there's a lot they they they can share they've just been historically discouraged from doing so
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they didn't really have a way to tell the world this complicated situation right and so i was sort of in the
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and so something really wild happened which is basically there was this moment in time where
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for those who had the knowledge so this this group of military government intelligence officials
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a number of them most of them most of them most of like who um so for example uh jay stratton okay
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you know jay was was he one of the first people you talked to yeah yeah so jay was um in the process
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uh a member of the uap task force um yeah he was that was a big deal when he came out yeah yeah so
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through his congressional hearings where he was right saying that the most important stuff so um and i i
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so much stuff that he was saying in front of congress was nutty yeah yeah and there's a lot
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even happened right you know people people are just so busy and everyone's got their nine to five and
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register for everybody so so jay was there from the jump and he was sort of leading you around
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staff so most people don't know this actually it's really interesting so um the senate intelligence
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break up topics so like one guy will know everything about uap one guy will know everything about nuclear
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technology one guy will know everything about you know environmental issues you name it and so
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uncovering this this truth um and learning all the reality of it um so i formed i formed a
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you know different than than it is and so they really helped keep me keep me on the right path
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me so skeptical though you know if i'm having politicians and intelligence people telling me who to
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way for the truth to come out and we encourage you to participate in this you know so yeah if you've
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button has all your payment and shipping info so you don't have to track down your card or hope your
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browser remembered your payment info there's a reason why so many businesses use shopify that's because
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brand and forget the code like daylight computer which is gorgeous so if you've got a product a dream and
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air force bases and our war weapon technology all that kind of stuff during the cold war so they're like
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and anywhere you can throw off your adversary it's strategic to do so sure so just because that
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this public spectacle like like the paul thing um so look i think the reality of it is uh everyone i
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in the government so the government there's like the secret war between the u.s government and private
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industry trying to wrestle control of this stuff whatever it is so private industry certainly has
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you know the dod um and so you know he explained how you know you you you give that technology to
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even know the program exists but the the defense contractors still chugging along and so you get
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within the cia the air force and the department of energy that are very much involved in this and so
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congressional oversight when it started in the 40s and so the tug of war really is elected officials
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to work on this right you know they don't yeah who can do the same thing and so it's hard to simply put
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it's hard to win a technology race if most of your scientists don't even know it's real you know and so
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the us lead in in this new frontier so we can make sure that it's used for the betterment of all mankind
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so a number of the people i interviewed made the point of you know their their opinion is that we
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a national priority on this front so that we win this technology race do you think there's any sort
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back channel like look there's got to be some coordination here i think so multiple people i
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and so i don't i no one's ever told me that currently there is still active communication and
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said uh there was there was so much uap activity near nuclear weapon sites that it was it was clear to
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both leaders of both nations that they needed to make the other aware so that no one misinterpreted a uap
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kept so much out of the loop that they they didn't even have a shot at grabbing the reins
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sponge just to get all the grease off the bottom they're heavy they feel premium and they look so good
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so you know of course let's let's you know let's not do an interview and yeah you know i always made a
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thinking of what the possibilities are yeah so after everything what is your high high level 30 000
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is full of life and so extraterrestrials i think i think i think all things are on the table i think it
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water world with no land what are the chances it's going to evolve to be so similar to us
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at impossible speeds under the water past our submarines and um so much so that they tim gallaudet
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tim's one of those people yeah um so much so that they they're they're making the logical conclusion
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no naval expert so if there's people listening who you know know i'm off on this that that's fine but
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happening in our oceans and in space where you're not flying right right and so unidentified anomalous
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foot you know it's ridiculous and um and the average scientist didn't think it was real and so the
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of the stigma so big a big mission for people in my film when when i talk to them you know off camera
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know if uh for so many stories of high level navy fighter pilots who see something in the air that's
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this bullshit you know and so they weaponize it dude there's a crazy a great um story in annie
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pilots up with gorilla masks in the cockpits so in the case they got into visual distance with a
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commercial aircraft they'd wear their gorilla mask wow so if someone they tried to go to the bar later
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like throwing a curveball into the story that's crazy yeah dude that's wild yeah so imagine man
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doing now bro dude that's crazy that is crazy that is wild so this legacy program
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so you talk in the movie you hear about the legacy program you hear other people talk about the legacy
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is this big monolith so it's not that in that um i learned pretty quickly you know leadership of the
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thousands and thousands of employees yeah and so someone reveals in my film that it's the head of
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so it's all kinds of things multiple companies all working together is the best all working together
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yeah not competing no so from from you know what i what what the big takeaway was from all my interviews
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so sits at the top of the the org chart and then the air force is used for operations so they have the
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centers um so they they also have a classification system that allows to keep all of this um extremely
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right so the classification system that they go by is like outside of the intelligence community's
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know slam the door on even them when they were inside of government you know so um
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seven or ten years now works at the mitre corporation so there's this adult revolving door
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corruption you know it's a flawed system so and then the other question is how do these where are
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reasons for doing so you know that's why i keep saying it's not a black and white situation you know
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race with adversaries and so um the best course of action ultimately is to not share with the public
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industry which is like you know the whole world is propped up on oil right so we've been hiding free
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they worry about so if you look at the the technology it these crafts are it's revealed in my film how
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currently not tapping into right and whether that is so-called free energy you know zero point energy
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destruction in the blink of an eye and that's a terrifying thought and so see how it's it's not black it's not a black
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make you know a weapon of mass destruction all of a sudden right that's absolutely terrifying so you
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oil companies too they're like if i get this out i'm going to lose billions of dollars so i'm just
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cartels get free energy weapons and ufos it's crazy but so when you when you talk about this then you
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would be stopped so by who the government it's illegal to build nuclear weapons yeah but you think
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create superior weapons yeah um so anyway like i mean look maybe how's right maybe he's wrong but his
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his outlook is that um because this technology could be so revolutionary to the way we live and because um
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put this uh disclosure directive in motion and so it's it's playing out right now we'll we'll see you
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so now i don't think i don't think it's been i don't think it's been used did they give you any
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uh you know a weapon of mass destruction anything so like the way you the way you could use it is i
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think pretty pretty clear it's a so you can move a move of a weapon from point a to point b instantaneously
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ultimately there's probably so many layers above this and above the so many layers above not only the
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and not be like okay this is a hundred percent yeah a hundred percent so what's the next level
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retrieved craft actual aircraft like technology not spiritual stuff technology of non-human origin and so
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the space race analogy is so great too is like think about it like there's probably a lot of people
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it so i think like that that's sort of a level set with the american public is i think what we're gonna
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long time ago broke off the human family tree um you know there's so much of our our planet that we
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yeah um so you know look there's a lot of possibilities the the only thing that's certain
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there there is indisputable video evidence that exists it's just classified so you know the best we
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line saying i have seen that with my voice it exists right and so that's that's where we are now and
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like essentially cloakable yeah so people always say you know the the average person always says well if
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above the water they're they're below the water line exactly and and so it's the same thing here if
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if we see so many of these things coming out of the oceans all the time and we have i mean
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they collect a lot of data though yeah like a lot of data at a classified level there's got to be so
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much more under the water look i was just to guess yeah i would guess there'd be so much more because
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and then vanished jesus that's fucking bananas now it's got to be so scary because you're a sitting
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and how did they use nukes to try to like bait the ufos in yeah so that's one of the really fascinating
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nuclear progress and to what we do with nuclear technology and so they started creating environments
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the same time i think um my understanding is that adversarial nations have done this and do this so that
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so if we don't do it then we would fall behind um again one of those like examples of this being a
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uh so so it was some of the intelligence officials
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directive we need to we need to identify what evidence exists that can be declassified right so
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he you know he brought it up so there you go it's interesting how were they if that's true if that
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drape such as drape j stratt yeah um have told me that in the past nuclear footprints were used so
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whoa yeah so actually um something that you know your listeners will find fascinating um so so jay
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a lot of there's a lot of data that shows that this this is a real area of inquiry so if you get
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out of the uap topic for a second so stargate it's a real program that really existed there is so much
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fallen off radar yeah and so there's always there's all this data out there that's that's indisputable that
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that program existed it was real there's a there there right it's a real situation and so it's not
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uh let's put a pin there i gotta piss so bad i can taste it we're back so you know we're talking
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and i'm not to our audience though totally well yeah i'm conscious of it for sure and so it's i think
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right um and so you know that that is that is sort of the bar i've always held like you know i i put
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that they have as leverage to earn more money in different private organizations oh yeah yeah so yeah
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right and so no one who spoke on camera in my film and revealed these extraordinary truths
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what is true that can be lawfully disclosed and so yeah what did you make of james clapper i think
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they did in fact have a program to actively investigate uap so he unveiled the air force's
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sensationalized so much you know in movies and tv shows that i think most people don't think it's real
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that so how do i how do i know he's honest about this right you know you're calling who you want to
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good you know you know and and he was like no this is important so you know um and and and and to be
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as if he was thinking himself like well i just said it so hopefully hopefully that's okay you know
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whole grander scheme so okay so if you play that out which of course i've had that i've had that thought
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with that but so if look if someone cracked this kind of technology in the 40s my point is i think
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make any sense to me you might be right anything steve so major u.s defense contractors are generally
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nvidia and alphabet okay yeah yeah so it's just not it's just not realistic like it you know everyone
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the job of knowing so prior to investigating uap and non-human intelligent line for the government
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20 30 years out um in terms of air and space technology it was literally his job so like the
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about this one thing right so much so that in the movie uh when james earl jones the head of the cia
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does and so they asked him you know please tell us this is one of ours he had been read in on all the black
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he was read in on those so that he could identify things that are ours versus things that are
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unknowns or potential threats and it was clear to him that it wasn't so that same guy ends up you know
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classified that would give them so much leverage they they would have never lost a defense contract
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they they would have so much leverage there is no way they would not be a more valuable company
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or nobody knows what you really have except for a very small group of people where's the value so in
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somewhere know about it right and so does lockheed in that dynamic i personally believe lockheed would have
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legacy programs work and some of it might be a result of china's program right um so i think that
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like something just completely it was like i i think i just watched it so it was like i think it
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so if that stuff has started happening it's getting siloed and and hidden and underneath black
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that time it was like two trillion so yeah and now it's like now it's a balloon to like 11 trillion or
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details it not enough to be able to talk about um so maybe maybe there's another whole hidden hand
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mind's eye to go somewhere else he had never even heard of remote viewing so sends him down this rabbit hole
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this and that person asked him if he had ever had a uap encounter he said he didn't think so uh
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when you were young scott's father had passed so he talked to his mother and his mother actually without
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the mom had heard of it so she's like jogging scott's memory and then um after that it sent him down
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years of his life scott's life and um yeah so it's like scott year seven scott year eight and inside
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probably should keep those details so this so this this this guy in in real life scott is um someone i was
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show up to talk to him about right so um yeah the same thing happened in rendalsham right yeah yeah
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after after the there was an event at rendalsham so rendal for those that don't know you know rent
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uh the events uh occur just outside of woodbridge okay ufo landings so
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so look the air force and the cia's role in this is is well well documented people have been talking about
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whose um parents were working in south africa for some reason and uh so it wasn't it wasn't like local
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like the the world could burn and there'd be all this destruction yeah right so an adult watching that
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up the story so he goes and he investigates it and he said after spending time talking to each of these
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was like over 100 kids and and and and so he came to believe them but at the same time as a as a as a
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him if these kids were all you know expert liars or crazy so he he he phoned the um the head of child
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psychiatry in the united states at the time his name was john mack so he calls him he tells him about
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so mack flies out to south africa and he interviews these kids one at a time he films the interviews and
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second was i know what i saw right mm-hmm i think so yeah yeah um but uh yeah moment of contact was
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leaving like yeah that one is like there's so much testimony witness testimony that lines up
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so well even the his new one has the the surgeon of the hospital yeah that one surgeon who like
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just didn't find out you know so i think it's it's it's an exciting time for civilian journalism and
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story yeah so it's like bringing attention to stuff actually leads to more coming out you know and at
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discount the other stuff and so i think my my ultimately obviously i you saw the film ultimately
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but there's just already so the base facts are already
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is already so extraordinary you know and such a departure from people's everyday life that i felt
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experiences some of the u.s government officials had at their homes after investigating this so
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at us and so these intelligence officials just sort of like applied that logic to what was happening to
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uncovered is totally digestible to the audience so i just decided to take that scene out yeah this is
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get their missiles through the straits but until they did um and so there's histories full of these
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human history yeah and and so there's this it is interesting and i found it i found it really
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incredible stories and from where i was sitting as the guy doing all the interviews there was so much
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overlap you it was like tell me what you heard about the aliens so talked to um several people who worked
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uh yeah i think i might do that one day but so one of these interviews um i did was it was it was
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and you know social media and all that so like you you know by telling someone don't talk to each other
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like going so fast that i i actually stopped the interview and i was like hey man you want to like
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there would have been even more um thoughtfulness put towards who gets those jobs yeah you know and so
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know i wanted to make it for the everyman so that the average person could understand this is a real and
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scripted movies uh or whether it's um whether it's just you know news program special yeah i'm sure there's so many more
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branches and so many more story lines that you could have followed and you can make uh you know
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you're doing that kind of thing and i've done it before it's like there's so much good you got
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then his friends would be in them um his family members would be in them and so i was inspired to
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do the same thing so like i i didn't i didn't have any we didn't have a lot of money growing up um
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you know normal like you know middle class in jersey and um so i saved up shoveling snow in the winter and uh
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editing you literally had to like cut the film right yeah and so uh i wrote directed produced and
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i wanted a police car chase so at the time i was working at the uh the local pizzeria working the
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ate they could get 30 dollars worth of food 10 bucks and uh so they liked us and uh i remember i asked
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you know you can speed up film right so yeah he was going fast but i made him look like he's going
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him at the local bar and he always brings it up he's like man that was awesome so i had all these i
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career you know and then so years later when we developed ready player one so the way that started
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coincidentally just um listened to the audio book on her morning walks and so she had been talking
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then so he he came on board spring of 15 and everything got fast tracked um we started
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film festival 2006 that i met uh ernest klein who wrote ready player one so this all kind of happened
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you know right or for other people or for the collective you know yeah um so i think i think movies
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you get especially in this day and age where everyone's so add and looking at a million things
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a powerful force of movie i think and so especially when you like really have to invest in it you know
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anymore it's kind of sad because that's like you're you're so locked in when you're when you're there
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boom they're at area 51. i want to see who that was like i'm not it's not ringing a bell right so james
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it's so good yeah dude i remember that i remember watching that moment and being like this is so
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know like so basically like basically saying that like there's all these about that basically saying
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there's a couple ways we test missiles so it's not generally speaking but one of the ways we test
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like you know how it performed um so that's just like a thing we do and so one of these tests happened
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contractor and he was explaining to me he he it made so much sense when he explained this to me he says
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a good idea to stay in the atmospheres because the atmospheres are the atmospheres are so volatile
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so it's like it's like fucking hell right and yeah not only that but like the pressure is different that
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you're at with the atmospheres that you're at so you would just go to water worlds because you can get
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the other thing just made me think of yeah we're talking about spielberg um he was so ahead of his
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investigator of project blue book was one of his consultants um so yeah he had he had people
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was into it there was a story there was a famous story of jackie gleason and nixon yeah yeah yeah so
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spielberg says he said it without smiling without smiling yeah so that's the story i remember and
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so uh yeah and that when you combine that with you know reagan gave a speech at the united nations
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facts and he wanted to disclose it right and he was contemplating disclosing it so he held a multi-day
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story is the fact that it was like just after 9 11 so the context also was like the world was already
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just like wow so yeah i think some presidents have found out and then ultimately been discouraged
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that and uh gonna be releasing other movies as well so um that's awesome yeah i'm thinking about a
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it more normalized and you know helping us push this out so we can finally get the truth hopefully
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