about privacy, autonomy, or just don't want to be the training data for the next AI overlord,
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Pull back. Don't do this stuff. But they ignored him, right? Did all this thing.
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I don't really know if I 100 percent trust it or believe it. I know that E. Howard Hunt
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Can I weave something together? And I don't know if this is the case, but like, you know,
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Eve. These people don't do New Year's Eve that way normally, right? There's big parties and there's
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She's fascinated by the Russian language. She's a Quaker who wants to study Russian. Don't think
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Uh, we don't know all that was discussed, but we do know now we have scraps of correspondence
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Do not, you know, get involved in this thing. You don't know how bad that's going to be for you.
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You know, distance yourself as much as possible. Don't give interviews, et cetera, et cetera. Right.
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Right. Ask the question. Nobody ever asked the question. They don't follow up with her at all.
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Yeah. But there's also, don't you connect like the Maury Island incident?
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And they think Fred Krisman was one of those hobos. I don't know if you corroborated that at all,
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said, why don't you come down? We're going to talk to these guys. And Arnold shows up and there's no
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That's where we deep dive into all sorts of crazy topics that we don't have time to fit into every
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people are really crazy. We don't, we can't make heads or tails of this. We're dropping it. And then
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at St. Patrick's Cathedral. We know the people at St. Patrick's. Why don't we just go down there
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God knows who else, they're all going to be in this room. I don't think so. He says, no, let's,
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I don't know. Uh, you're not on the list, but you know, come by and then if we can get you in,
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If you're Catholics, any of you listening, you know, you don't go on the other side of the communion rail,
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I mean, you could look and you can see these guys don't belong where they are.
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don't come back again. You know, that was brother Victor, another whole story. The other church was
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that you do to make this change official, to call down the forces to make this happen. They don't know it
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middle of all of this stuff. But I don't know what's related to the Kennedy assassination at all. I have
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him after that. We don't know. Never heard from him again.
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that room because it's just your family. They don't have, believe me, the wherewithal to carry on a
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this. That's how off the charts insane it becomes. Cause they're looking at us like, don't think so.
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I really don't think so, but thanks for coming in. Uh huh.
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go off the deep end for, if you're already weak, if you're already kind of, you don't have critical
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thinking ability. Um, you don't have a lot of, you know, psychological strength, let's say. Yeah. From
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even if we don't believe in the fantastic, but we're in, we swim in a sea of fantasies,
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define, I don't like the word occultism because it sounds like Marxism or capitalism. Like it sounds like
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but there's always that point at which, you know, we don't know. There's always that point where you,
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I don't know, they wear that sort of fake garb or whatever, then, uh, it would be sort of inherently
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uh, around 2000. I don't remember 2007, eight, nine, something like that. You're early 2000s.
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It would be really cool. I don't think so. No, but what you're talking about,
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Yeah. I don't really either.
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And so, you know, I don't know. Is it, is there anything there?
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that's pulling on a whole bunch of threads that you don't, we really don't have time for.
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where shots were fired from a grassy knoll. We don't know how many shots were fired. There's
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Don and Baron Trump and their time traveling adventures, which is a book that was written,
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all the rest of it, right? In this impossible place. They have a series of calendars, right? They don't use
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something off, right? So they don't measure time the same way that we're measuring it by solar and lunar
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Tibet-India-Indonesia connection that's very strong. So we don't know all the details on this very well,
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Well, let's, yeah, we reached out. I mean, I don't know how Tom does what Tom does.
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tribes are looking at this thing and they're saying, God damn, we don't know that this, that you could
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he's on land with these people. Right. Doesn't want to eat or drink. We don't even know if he's
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It's exactly the same design, you know, so we don't know what that means because that design is
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but the fact that they would, because you don't have a telescope, you have to sit there and watch it
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about the other planets, you have to notice that there is certain planets that don't stay in the same
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you're keeping track of the background stars that don't move, right? Or they move like in a circular motion.
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we try to make it a couple of times. I hope I don't bore anybody with it is the fact that everybody has
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kind of distracted by the Hugo boss outfits. You know, we get distracted by things that we don't
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but the documents don't lie. It's just a question. Do you interpret them the same way?
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Okay. Okay. We have to define our terms. There's so many terms in that sentence. I don't know where to
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Nordics. We don't belong in this situation that we're in. You know, we're in this, we lost the
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based on the information that we have. And that is something that people don't realize. We think of
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what we think was a prototypical flying saucer. The amount of, I mean, the problem is we don't know
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flying saucer. We don't know how far they got. And then Annie Jacobson writes about in her book,
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definitely not human. And so those two things just don't line up or comport at all. Obviously,
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We don't have a lot of evidence to, to, to, to enlarge it, but we do have the idea that if you
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the Nazis against the communists instead of the other way around. Um, so I don't know. I, I, I, it's,
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you know, um, with, with the space program. So we really don't want to piss off the Nazis that much,
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that story doesn't seem that likely it would, we would have done something with it. Don't tell me
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but we don't know how to, you know, fly them perfectly or so? I don't know.
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Do you, so, so, so this is a point to say that you don't think we are in possession of saucers and
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don't have it, why can't you discuss it? Why can't you just say no?
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Lie to me again and say, no, we don't have a saucer.
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Don't leave it open-ended.
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Don't leave it like, maybe, you know, we have a flying saucer.
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I don't get it. Why, but I know he still goes on Gaia and talks about six different races of aliens.
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And people are like, wow. And insiders telling us, you don't know the history, but, um, but do you,
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were doing this, this kind of thing. So the idea is we create an image just brief. We don't need it
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with the occult context for it. Right. So they're going to do it this way. You know, I don't know what
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they've studied since, since that time. I don't know if they've gotten far enough to say I can make this
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go off and found a cult. We don't know. Right. Maybe they've gotten that far to realize that they can
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I don't know. We have these words for it and that's where we get lost when we start doing that.
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probably viewers have seen, heard this before, but I'll make it brief. Um, don't make it brief.
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no, I'm sorry. I don't know. Okay. Thank you. And they got into their car and pulled out and drove
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following the other car. I just want to follow the first car. And so I'm like flummoxed. I don't know
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right? I don't know. I was like, what the hell was this about? Right? It was just the mysterious
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of course there's tourists there, but people don't, they're not touchy feely in that part of the world.
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Yeah. Weird. So you're asking me about NHI and stuff. I don't know how to answer that question.
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something out? And I don't have anything that, you know, a couple of TVs in my computer and that's
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And Whitley said, don't worry about it. It's just the visitors saying, hello, just, you know, saying,
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just passing through, you know, that's all it is. Don't worry about it. So then years after that,
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light, but I don't see what it's looking at. There's no light on the ground, right? I'm looking
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which shouldn't have been because domestic operations and all that stuff. I don't know
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So he's saying, don't worry about what Congress does or doesn't do. It doesn't have any effect on
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You guys don't need to worry about anything. I'm listening to this and I'm thinking, should I be
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listening to this? Should I be in the room with this discussion? I don't know what the hell is going on
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just maybe, I don't know, three or four years later, I suppose, there's this phone number you
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full. And he says, these guys are acquiring them. He says, but I have doubts about these guys. I don't
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me to some problems. So could you go and spy on them? They've never seen you. They don't know what
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I'm a book lover from day one. So you don't do this to books, right? You don't strip. I don't write
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thought should be saved from the fire that I would take responsibility for. I don't know where he got them,
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no, no, no, no, no, no. You can't be serious. And I said, I don't know. Am I serious about what?
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that they were running. Where they, what they did with the money, I don't know, but they did get
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a portal to other dimensions. And you found it and it, and what's, I don't know if it's it. I mean,
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The story has been around. I don't know who's promulgated it, but it's been around. So yeah, that,
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Dr. Randall Bell, okay. I don't believe that Hitler was really an occultist. I make that point in
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Unholy Alliance. I try to make it really firmly. I don't think Hitler was an occultist per se,
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at all. I don't see Hitler in a robe, you know, casting spells. No, never going to happen.
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this kind of went together in his own mind. I don't believe that Hitler saw himself as an
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strands of the DNA molecule, double stranded helixes don't exist in nature, except for the DNA molecule,
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but they don't exist in visible nature. They're not part of our world. Single helix, a helix does,
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the problem that I have. So I don't have a problem with Jewish mystics. What I'm saying is that Jewish
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Um, and he also like the miracles ramp up in the book of Acts. Yes. So, but like, I don't know. I
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one at the time of Jesus life. And we don't actually know, uh, because nobody was nobody who wrote a
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together a story and as I always tell people, we still don't know what was on the 18 and a half
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minute oval office tape gap during Watergate. We still don't know that. How do we know what happened?
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imaginary answer. Right. Right. When you don't have a real answer, something you can agree on,
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because the government, you know, we don't trust the government. Yeah. The government's not telling
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thing is ridiculous, you know, I'm with, I don't have any serious, but you know, it's like, I've spoken
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Well, don't let me forget them because you mentioned MJ 12.
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I don't believe in any of that. He says, what we meant by that was anything that came down
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a kind of meme. So do you, so you don't think it was a hoax. I see. Again, I work on evidence.
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Paul Jayne- Yeah. But Skinwalker Ranch became this thing. We don't, this was fight club. And we suddenly,
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we don't talk about it. Right. So that stunned me. I wrote, I copied this. Oh my God, we can't talk
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say to the right people, you don't get the right information. And the re the reverse of that,
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you know, people that we need to be focused on this are not because they don't have the clearances
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it ain't much. I don't think there is a lot that they know.
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I think they have evidence. They don't know what to do with it.
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I don't think there was a great defense against it. Um, so.
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It's, it's, they don't care. Suddenly all of our problems, you know, that famous book, the bell curve,
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Can you define your terms, please? I don't know what I'm talking about.
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We think we know what that word means, but as we find with biblical scholarship, we really don't.
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development, right? But in, in terms of purely biblical origins, I don't think we have much in
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But I don't know how real it is.
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I don't think they're formal.
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I don't think they're formal. I think there are, these are groups that come together and kind of
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So there's a whole story there, I suppose. But from my point of view, I don't think these groups are as,
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This guy was con. And he said, no, we don't, you're not supposed to learn about this. This is what
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lived up to my expectations. Um, I don't want to say anything negative about people you've had on,
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the traditionalists don't have an answer to that fundamental question.
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They did well, right. When everybody else suffered. And so I don't want to go back to any of those golden
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it was, we already have it. It's all around us. We've got it in our hands. We don't know how to use it.
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We don't know how to look at it. You know, we're, we're too divided in so many different ways, you
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it's always been there. It's always been accessible. I don't want to go to a golden age. I want to go
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and you have this, the special power. And that just, uh, I don't know, that seems like a sort of
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15 years or so, they haven't yet defined what it is they're looking for. They don't know. Right.
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take the nuts and bolts guys and you push them a little bit and they don't know what they're
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behind it and long history in front of it on the other side. At this point, I don't know what's going
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that they were doing with us at that point. After that, I don't, I lost track of the, of the trail
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don't have 13 floors, but ours did. And so we're on floor 13. And the Field Engineering Division was
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So I don't know. I think the, I think the broadcast with Knapp was after me. I don't know if he was at,
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I don't know if he was Area 51 while I was at Bendix or not. I left Bendix in 79, I think. So I don't
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before working for Area 51, ostensibly, right? Because you don't blow the whistle on Area 51 and
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It's just, it's interesting. The thing is that, you know, I don't know how well.
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things and even the kids, their stories don't match all the time, right? They're seeing little things,
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big things. They're talking about different sizes and shapes. That's data. That's not, we don't
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maintain a sense of humor about it. Don't take it too seriously. Don't take the, the, the completely
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combating positions, the, the positions at, at opposite ends, don't take it as, um, written in stone.
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today may give up and say, tomorrow I was wrong. It's possible. So don't put too much worth,
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together in a different way to get at the truth? Don't invest, I would say, your soul into this so much
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but I don't know if that's popular anymore, but you're going to take it apart in pieces.
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still incorporating stuff that I'm like, I don't know if this is true. This is, you know,
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their amusement because you know, they're old guys, they're celibate, they don't drink. So what are
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before you get to the second level. So these things happen. This is life. When things don't smell
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I mean, I, I don't really give detailed instructions for that. There are no real details for it. It's a
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Substack. That's where we deep dive into all sorts of crazy topics that we don't have time to fit into
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