Wow, that's amazing. So you were kind of chosen as a note. I mean, something that you've talked about as well as the great John Von Neumann, who is known for being an absolute genius in his time smarter than all of the other incredibly smart scientists in the US, tongue Hungarian.
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That's not true. They were involved. A couple of data points to support you before you go on is Robert Sarbacher said John Von Neumann was directly involved.
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Yeah in the world like we are in moments like this I just often remember a specific interview the doctor John Mac did with one of the one of the kids from the aerial school and he asks her why she thought the visitors were there and she goes in space there is no love but down here there is and I I remember so viscerally watching that for the first time and that resonating on such a deep soul level that I don't know what I'm going to do.
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But I haven't heard from Laurie what what what were John Mac
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She could blow up in your face very easily and but Stan Friedman's to me always stood out along with John
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John Mac and Edgar Mitchell and
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And it was wonderful time and I got to know jay john better than that I had before what was that group like and
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What was Lawrence Rockefeller like and and John marrants was as Lawrence was a very
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So didn't didn't the Rockefellers both on John Mac and Steven Greer as well and the 90s I believe yeah
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So okay, it's what was John Mac like the sea he was well first of all we were both cut-ups when we were kids and played a lot of practical jokes and made
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And I said John, what are you going to do?
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He's just going to miss John Mack when they're at Harvard together
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