John

go ahead uh Colonel John Alexander

the men who stare at goats John Alexander that one yep that's John you see our new zoom in on it a little

mm-hmm you see my hat there that's I've got a whole box of those John where's one to

CIA so okay explain this story how did you meet John Alexander and and what was your relationship with

him would John start saw the first chapter of the book and um this guy's like a legendary military

we we stay in contact I mean we love John John was at my house not long ago

yeah which we uh we love to be how are you introduced to him and what was his interest in you John

so a couple three days later I'm in Philadelphia and when I walk in his house there stands John Alexander

and so they got secret service involved and then John calls German monogal and Jeff says the same

in you couldn't drive and they arrested a guy for that so that's how I met John and it was a real

and I couldn't answer it but I enjoyed the tour I got to sit where John Glenn said or all of them

Because that's where John's revealed and they're relative to 10.

when you were hypnotized by John Carpenter, a psychiatric social worker.

You know, I got you together with John Carpenter, the psychiatric social worker.

But until we actually got on the ground, John and I, and retraced the route in there that we had come in in the car,

But once I went in on the ground on foot with John, I knew instantly that it wasn't that one.

I mean, John talked to a newsman.

You attended a UFO conference with John Carpenter and you gave a paper,

The only other investigator is yourself are Don Berlin, her and Bob Biglot and John Carter.

George Napsource was this man, John Lear, famed aviator, son of the founder of the Lear jet and soon to be influential in the conversation on UFOs.

And one day John Lear walks into the news station. This is in 1987 with a stack of documents, UFO documents. And he plops them on Ned Day's desk and he says, Ned, this is the biggest story you will ever cover in your life.

And I went air on Saturday or Sunday morning at six or seven o'clock and I said, John, you want to do this show? And I put him on and I just let him go.

Well, they just turned off again. Welcome back UFOs. Are they real? We're talking with John Lear on the subject.

Okay John Learve has been very interesting. You keep us posted.

According to John Lear this is the only snippet of real UFO footage that aired in the documentary.

John Lear's new friend not only knew what was going on out there he knew when and where to look to the skies.

Good evening this is John Lear.

What George didn't know was that this would be even bigger than John Lear it turned out to change everything we know about the government and UFOs.

I'm thinking who could we get to fill this I called up John Lear I said you said you had a guy who was going to work out there and maybe work on flying saucers in the desert.