NASA

Program like project blue book I call it project blue box because even the guy that runs in NASA as it can't part his hair without authority so it's kind of like people are imprisoned in this legacy architecture system.

So I think on that level for the hearing that was great I actually think the guy from NASA Mike was a great witness to I've had more time to talk with him and interview with him and he was involved with big low aerospace back in the day not not the ranch and all that stuff but the actual aerospace company that put up inflatables that attached to the International Space Station and this guy knows it shit.

So I thought it was pretty cool to have him testify from his position kind of representing NASA.

All this was investigated by NASA.

People from NASA and the intelligence world.

NASA.

NASA.

One from NASA.

He's a former NASA scientist and a prominent figure in the field of astronomy and UFO research.

He worked at NASA during the era of Werner von Braun, contributing to the agency's advancement during the space race.

He said, hey, I'm Hal Poveneier. I am a part of the press corps from NASA. I drove 12 hours from Cape Canaveral looking for the house of Chris Bletsow.

This is the Bletsow residence and I'm like, yes it is and he shows me his badge and NASA says press corps, right? You know, right on it.

So I tell my mom, you know, someone from NASA's here and we get dad on the phone. He's like, keep him entertained. You know, bring him in, I'll be there in an hour.

He was there for 11 years before he died. How had a security clearance up to he died and had been working with NASA for years, 50, 59 years I think.

And he was basically like the guy that NASA would send if a reported case was getting serious attention from the government.

Has he ever sort of tipped to you any sort of blowback that he had from NASA by being your friend or by sticking around or is any of that ever come up?

Chris blood says experience probably one of the most dramatic. This is just a wonderful, wonderful man. And I believe every word he tells me and about this. And not only do I believe every word he tells me he attracted the attention of a lot of people, DIA NASA, CIA, other agencies.

He was in charge of mission control at NASA. His work for Elon Musk as an advisor. He once brought Diana and Dr. Gary Nolan blindfolded an hour in the desert to an alleged secret UFO crash site.

Tim's an interesting guy to say the least you know this guy's got 40 biomedical patterns. He's worked with NASA, SpaceX and all of the above. He's been to the Vatican archives, but also not much is known about it.

Such as NASA, why was I at NASA? Why did they get me down there? How did I get into NASA? Not cook, cook quarters. I got to meet the general. I got a special pin that only certain people have. And they wanted to know from me what, in other words, let's just say they're just now talking about the plasma.

They were at NASA. They were at a service credentials, national reconnaissance office. They had a necklace with badges credentials. And they were individual. Air Force, CIA, NASA, DOD, Area 51, and more.

So the whole thing was done as they were Diana was working with Vescaic me and so it was NASA. So it was bigger than just getting in the door.

When he invited you to NASA, what did you feel was the sense of his importance? Did you notice that like people around him sort of just like open doors for him or like, how, what was that like?

but some friends at NASA knew I had it and they knew that I was connected to another guy up in Ohio that had some.

But he thought comfortable talking to me. I'm just a average guy, right? So he told me about it and I let some folks at NASA know about it and they wanted to go up.

But folks at NASA, I ask them, I said, why are you here?

And he had these projects Genesis one Genesis two projects to create these inflatable habitats for NASA as kind of NASA's future space program. And he was very successful.

Anyway that's so and when we're talking about these legacy programs I mean again educated guess how many how many programs do you think we're talking all together between Air Force and CIA well it's let's let's expand this I mean I don't think it's just Air Force and CIA I think NASA has this.

I think for like the NORAD and maybe NASA.

Because NASA is not only a civilian agency, it's a defense, defense agency also.

government and you're in the Air Force CIA NASA, wherever it is and you're looking at this stuff,

he attracted the attention of a lot of people, DIA, NASA, CIA,