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good things had very good things to say and uh more mike gold of nasa but they they focused on this

force major and he was a nasa doctor he's looking for it dr gregory rogers rogers and it's by i want

journalists who do very good work on this anyway so this man gregory rogers was a nasa doctor

its own dedicated time i should i should know it i was talking about it i could i think nasa was

he also told me was there is this uh there's this secretive nro character who was tied into nasa who

jeff he's not alive anymore he uh he spent all of his time just pulling down nasa video footage from

all the nasa space missions and just looking through them and he wasn't just some wide-eyed

things on these nasa missions objects out there that just did not make a lot of sense objects doing

read him into all this super secret stuff talked about all these crazy oh this the high level nasa

nasa are like clinging to him well there's a couple of ways to look at it one is that it's an op

he was tapped to be the chair of the NASA UAP Working Group.

gets tapped to run the UAP Working Group for NASA.

A Lockheed Martin DARPA engineer, also worked at NASA,

I mean, he's, you know, NASA engineer, aerospace engineer, DARPA.

And back in 89, he would tell NASA mission specialist Bob Eschler to talk to NRO Program

Have you ever seen the Simpkinson NASA archive photo?

Simpkinson, NASA archived UFO by Ed Wilson.

Dr. Gregory Rogers, a recently retired chief flight surgeon for NASA and the U.S. Air Force

So it took me a year and a half to get NASA to switch to the green chem lights.

Well, you know, people think of NASA as the smartest, greatest thing.

Some of the NASA managers wanted to make spacesuits, and they did not want to involve the Air Force or the rescue forces.

So even if you go back to, like, the first few launches, STS-1234, they had to go to Beale Air Force Base and borrow the yellow spacesuits that the U-2 and SR-71 guys fly because you couldn't fly with the NASA ones.

This is so interesting because I just met with a former NASA engineer out here.

Do you, you know, what I've found just anecdotally is when I meet people inside the government or who've worked at, you know, NASA or the Air Force, you expect them to be less conspiratorial than people on the outside in the civilian world, right?

Are there any other things outside of the core experience that we're going to get into in 1992 that you experienced in a sort of government context, you know, Air Force or NASA, that really kind of widened your worldview?

There's a guy at NASA who has a deep interest in these sorts of things, experiencers.

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