this is weaponized i'm george knapp here in las vegas joined by my friend and colleague jeremy
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are that sort of disclosure is nigh uh president trump has said he's going to release the files
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biggest stash of unreleased files as far as we know is somewhere in the bowels of the dia the defense
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u.s government is james lakatsky and it's now been eight years since i first met him and got a download
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with some minor uh contributions and um you know the fourth and final book about all sap is now out
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that i know of he ran a ufo program and literally is printing books that are authorized to tell exactly
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what happened exactly how it is but people have to be readers they have to get in there and they have
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that boundary is because it ends up being that the boundary is usually in a really interesting place
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it's what he's not allowed to say which is what we need to learn we can read his book but then we
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got to learn where is that boundary and why and so um again dr lakatsky has done more for modern day
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disclosure than i think anybody has if people read his books then certainly that is true um but there
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is a boundary and i respect that but i need to know where that is with him what is it he's not allowed
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years not uh recorded and there's a there's a big gap in that and that is about you you know we really
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visit skinwalker ranch i wanted to hear the real details what is really going on and that's what dia was
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friend jay stratton is you two guys were both at dia at the same time with different sort of specialties
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and then and eventually you guys compared notes and and we know what the the rest of the history is is
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that sort of correct is how you remember it well it is in a very broad terms uh we had uh he was part of
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of wow you know skinwalker ranch that is the wildest place i've ever heard of and little did they know
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there your job is to look for threats and assess threats and um and and at some point you thought
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well maybe this is a threat that's why it's worth looking into it's not your religion you're not part
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engineering is that correct yes i was uh uh in the utility basically i was employed for doing startup
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physics and uh reactor engine engineering feasibility is what i read and then for a compact torsation design
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tied to oak ridge's advanced torsation design is that correct well that's what they called it yes that's
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all correct that's all everything that's out there is correct what i have not put out is details further
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system that i was working on very advanced wow and it is back then it was approved for research by dod
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you think about it still classified it okay it is buildable now it is buildable now so yeah so you
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that work was a theoretical uh physics aspect of a weapon system that is classified later on for okay
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i know him which is through his defense intelligence work yeah yeah and that's why i was i felt in you
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had three more were needed and actually what you said as a putting a period on all of this is a final
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everything they released on kona blue was correct all i'm saying is it was incomplete
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pentagon is unclassified but the story's in there i can't emphasize that anymore you're going through it
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bit by bit uh one thing that does upset me is when i see things on the internet of people diligently
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it's it's just the way it is they're filling in the the blanks with things that aren't true so george i
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call ufos is that fair to say that you know you followed the data into the taboo that's correct uh
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obscure what was meant to be but is there an untrue statement in there no that's what we wanted
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aerospace space company we were sure they had the personnel but the thing is is were they going to go
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down the direction that dia wanted and the answer is of course no so everything is above board we did
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and i'm gonna see another book but this book may or may not be necessary it's i think it is because
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and i'm surprised we were able to release uh legally what we we put in pentagon so that the dia is aware
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the pentagon the the dia itself is very aware now because of your work that there are close contact
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to non-humans is that correct well from this study we are from this study we are you know not everything
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is in here but everything is in here it's just that how you read this is very important and it was
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is pursuing they're in the four books well how do you read it just like you're doing you read and
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did happen uh what you don't do in the books is sort of draw conclusions um hey these are aliens these
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are et's these are not us um do you have conclusions from before or is it something that you purposely
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they know more but they don't that this that this is wide open and that's why these books are structured
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eyes off the steering wheels but because you had to read the map but there is not the iphones weren't
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does anyone know does anyone you know know the answers to the big questions who are they is it
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non-human intelligence if so where are they from why they're here what their interest is in us do
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it's happening all over the world and everything that you've written in these four books is approved
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so the reaction of course from the naysayers is this is drip drip drip um you know it's it's government
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is is is it important to have all the details are we are we skewing people's minds in the in a small but
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we've just opened up the door by saying hey this is real you need to do your research your due diligence
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section of people of the general public all the way to the phd level the thing is is is there's
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this and this is something a lot of people say to me is dr lakatsi is the only one that's out there
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it is and the u and i feel that way and i think it's happening on on many other topics many others
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systems that it can be better handled but jeremy you're correct the history is being lost as we
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has not been maybe now it is well george um our last interview with a representative and i want to get
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dr lakatsky's opinion on this but our last interview george with rep burleson so maybe this is round three
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of fraser verse ali got a direct question um you know rep burleson is kind of like the people's champ
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question is you know have you ever been to the pax river facility and is there a craft there how was
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them initially that seemed to concern confirmed something really weird was going on there is going
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the government is moved in there uh these strange things occur but the first the first statements
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plates tied to some of these men in black were from department of homeland security is that part correct
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yeah maybe this is a government car but we don't know what agency was looking at it and why were they
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explain that again it wasn't outside the gate money materializing the circle is that why brandon bought the ranch
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in this new book future visions is you verify that there were unusual electromagnetic signals that seem to be
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emanating from the mesa at the ranch which is very consistent with what the tv show is pursuing these
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is to say there wasn't anything significant there there was a hint that something might be going on but
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let's find out who everybody is now everything went well we didn't find out any problems on anyone
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uh we had counterintelligence you know who's in charge of it in this country is the fbi we had
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now i i know brandon fugal is doing a great job up there of furthering the research um and with
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is in counterintelligence is to get them to break connection and so we we were confident we did that
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that hey this is legit well i've admitted this is all legit uh you know there's we didn't keep
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after i saw what i saw inside the ranch house which is kind of a repetitive as i now understand it a
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experiments attempting communication with whatever it is um how did they work out did you find anything
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substantive and in general would you say that communication is possible with whatever it is whatever
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certainly the plant growth i mean if a plant is is growing at double the rate it should be that's
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and data is very important especially on experiments the problem is having the time and the money to
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a tip is exactly as i described it here now the day they started using a tip in 2015-16 to describe their their uh
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uh uh uh what would you describe that it's more lunchtime get-togethers that's uh and george is laughing
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george is laughing i don't know how else to describe it i mean well it's a it's a big issue and people
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a truth is if you can't say you can't say it but we're talking about a material transfer related to uap
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answer is i'm just curious if you can say it i don't think that i that i should i think that the
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on tv a new edition of one of these shows that is describing what is still a compartmented program
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idiot dr lakatsky well he no but the thing is there's there's let's go back baby steps here what
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well is the word deception from let us say uh suspected aliens let's let's use that don't don't dismiss
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your own conclusions the dad is there there's a lot of stuff in these books and i'm not pitching pitching
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well i i'm a person where words go in one ear and out the other well hold on george george is
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counterintelligence operation which of course arrow is like the roach motel the old ads for the roach
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yet to formally dismiss um explain uh discourage uh interest in the tic tac is tic tac still legit is it
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drones that fly from one country to another but uh the the answer to your question is
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i just can't believe that but but the thing is is there's classified programs that are your developments
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i would say that we this is contrary to what's out there on the internet that we patterned our program
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a machine a version of a machine well we're using our current terminology i mean the answer is yes but
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beyond that even in the conceptual role so the thing is is what's a machine what's a human what's
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when the critch comes to shove but the fact is is that uh as as you well know among any of us here or
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off planet origin but i i certainly can't as something that is uh
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uh an overarching system that is on earth uh doing all of this now that is not in contradiction to my
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and it is unusual too what you designed for the cover it didn't turn out that way correct
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would it what would it show and this is what it came up with i haven't changed this at all except for
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the fact is i'm i'm i'm constantly asked on on these three books or two of them the last two um
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i had to put the star field back in the high resolution this is a technical issue with however
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totally contrary to my request totally maybe ai knows something you don't well it is or it's better designer than i am and has more
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suggestions on the index which is as always confused me is how am i supposed to form an index on these
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its suggestions but i i still have to do it but not a word not a word in the rest of the documents is ai
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and then you know that's the first time you're going to be able to do it um the implication is that there are
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or not that actually happens i don't know what those files would be but it seems like there is a an
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interest among the public certainly to see whatever there is you and i and jeremy know they're only going
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administration and possibly under a near term administration the answer to that is i don't
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here right no it's the first time but uh the thing is is is i really can't go further you know i i think
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had stated that um you know my testimony wouldn't be any more insightful than these books that is a
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hope that no one is lying to congress however i know differently in these hearings you do know that
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know okay well that's different so you know of somebody that lied but that is not dylan borland correct
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to me that we are very clear that that is not george knapp not dylan borland stop me if i'm wrong not
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those people in that we get very clear that your accusation that somebody lied that it is not i'm
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and i won't answer anymore the fact is i made a statement that there was falsehoods made uh uh
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false target on your back that's necessary i think this is part of the research
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it's just like enough there's another reason i won't testify at congress that the boat is sailed on
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declassify what most certainly is classified materials uh files and and videos and things of
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in the process as of this time it's it's effectively as you said jordan's disclosure is there concern if
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reveal that there is uh alien technology being encountered and that there are aliens if you were
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it it is my problem if i've contributed to it going on and on in the wrong direction and i don't want that
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craft try to you know bring some propane torches just to get a feel that that is true that would
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people would embrace and i don't think it is anybody's job to hold back the nature of reality
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from humankind so i think that if we got that or is that going to reveal the nature of reality
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you you know you tell me but what it's going to do is stop hiding the nature of reality and so if we got
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look and it's not a personal attack on you this is um something i feel very passionate about which is
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that it is nobody's right tell you jeremy it comes across as that and it comes across to the public as that
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is that i'm doing something wrong george is correct they've gotten what they've gotten right here it's
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a wrong path congress is being led down a wrong path the president is being led down the wrong path
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the fact is is there is two forces out there that want people to know and and there are those that
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don't want people to know and is that religious element out there absolutely is it effective absolutely
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i have a calm demeanor all the time where i actually don't you know the fact is when i'm seeing total
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and is we just want to get rid of this attitude in the letters uh so did one side win and another side
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so the thing is i didn't say that to them because they would i had to say i'll try i'll try i'm trying
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the verifications we got the the lowdown this that true story but the thing is is
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in which is that it's beyond just craft the importance are this great oh it's far beyond just craft
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and you know and some of the material we acquired show that it's far beyond it is about craft there's
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fact is i think you're both great guys and you've helped a lot but you know don't become obsessed with
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know and me pushing is just because i don't have much option here um you know i really appreciate
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but it all comes down to to physics let's say so it is technology um i i am concerned and i am
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saying this right now as an old man because the crew is getting old jeremy they're going to start
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involving the same thing and coercion into the the missile silos but the fact is is we failed in getting
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is the ultimate um you've been optimistic in in previous conversations you know about where this could lead
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well you can't say this and this is you know z but you've just said a all the way up to um y but
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interest and because that's we got to find out what's underneath the hood there man he is a mystical
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and and it's up to us to take it from there yeah i think the interesting thing for him is
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guy he is maybe he's like a previous generation type guy who not previous from my generation but uh
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is that ultimately nobody knows the ultimate truth we don't know where these things are from
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we don't know who built these craft we don't know the long-range implications of for is there a plan for
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ets they're from the planet krypton and here's why they're here and this is what they want to do
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government that knows the ultimate answers we what he has shared with us is as far as he can go but he
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kona blue as if it is real you know the popular conception is it ended that dhs kicked it out
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another osap nothing that broad but at least one element of kona blue is going forward we just don't
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know what it is right yeah he can't say right you probably cannot say for natural security reasons
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that today it's got to be frustrating for him he's like standing on a mountaintop telling it like it is
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like books that are exact which you know they are with him so yeah he is meticulous for sure and then
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i've had with him is that there is a glimmer of hope in all of this uh that he's shared with us that
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be episode one one five one fifteen one fifteen is there some subtle hidden meaning to that number
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