There is a monastery in Vermont.
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The new designation of aliens is saber.
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So my story is I was about, I was 11 years old living in Germany at the time.
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But the main piece of the pie that I wanted to, and the reason that I wanted to have you on, was talking about this alleged real video of an alien that is being interviewed, potentially at S4.
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But I was really thought that you could do a great service to my journey, which is all this has ever been.
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And the preamble is this, is that folks, what I have said for seven years has never changed.
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So I know people like to get into the chat log and this is BS.
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But tell me the story behind why you think something is not coprathetic.
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Skepticism, I think, is healthy.
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That was like, well, that is a great statement.
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This is, we're not talking about a fuzzy saucer in the sky.
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We are talking about a very creepy, weird looking being, whatever it is, puppet, interdimensional, off planet, interstellar.
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This is, these podcasts are my therapy.
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This is my therapy too of talking through this, begging people to help me.
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Well, what's nice about my research is that I have the backstory and I can tell it now
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Uh, which, which is great because I can speak to you now and don't have to say, I'll have
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This is something no one under, no one knows about.
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This is him where his demands weren't met.
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And his, and his security wouldn't be met, which is my first, you know, my first thing,
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If Victor is a, a, a paid actor, you know, central casting.
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But if somehow this is the UFO community, this is why a lot of people run from this.
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The UFO community told me, but if Victor is a government employee, a military person, somebody
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Prove John, prove who Victor is.
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this is John Stewart from Chicago.
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But Mike Darnell is with Fox Unscripted Television Department.
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Sorry to interrupt, but folks have to understand as well during this time, like obviously the audience that is listening is a little more mature.
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And this is why I came on the show.
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I have had four reality show go, go to pilot, which is, which is huge.
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Chris, what I'm trying to tell your audience, and this is very important with the background of Victor, to get a meeting with a network in 96, the verbiage that you would know to, to, to, to be able to tell the blocker, the secretary, the receptionist,
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Now, this is where I debunk myself a little bit.
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Sitting at the Rocket Pictures office is the only Hollywood director that has ever been to Area 51.
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I know you're looking at me like, wait, why is John debunking his own?
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This interview is terminated.
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Can I ask you who is at your studio at this time?
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And I froze going back to what, because we're, we're thinking this guy is a scientist to some degree inside these programs.
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So my point is this, a very elaborate animatronic alien by anyone's standards.
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So my point is, was there enough money to produce, and people hate when I say this, an animatronic being that we think would have to have had about five operators with remote control cables, dragon skin, rubber skin.
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There is a money aspect here.
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I'm telling you, there is.
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That like, now, the experts in puppetry don't believe for a second this is an alien.
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This is a top Hollywood special effects person.
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There can't be a hand inside the mouth because the chin is only three fingers wide.
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And we've showed part of it where there is really no one in the back of the head from what we can see.
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We show the mouth going open like that, which is alarming to me.
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So the only argument left is puppeteering.
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That is the only argument left.
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The person that made that bizarre monitor, which I think is the bombshell.
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That if there is, I'm wrong.
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But the argument that still does hold up for a lot of people is PSYOP, right?
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That is the biggest argument to be made about this case.
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What better way to sort of misdirect the audience is to leak an alleged interaction with a being
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I'm saying, for me, the only valid argument other than it being real is some insane PSYOP.
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And that, to me, is just as valuable in this context because what are you covering up?
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of them is Stephen Greer.
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27, that there is, that I am 99% positive that it was filmed by the United States government.
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We are, we are definitely, um, under the, the, the distinct possibility that that is a
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Is, do you think that if it was a PSYOP that Victor was kept in the dark?
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So he, by all means, thinks that it is a real alien and was being told.
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What's funny about the Bob Lazar story is that I have basically threaded, thread, put
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we have multiple people telling us that that has, that is something that is, that turned
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this is a big piece of information here that people were like, why would they just allow
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When I read that on Google, it was just, again, one of those things I'm like, wow, is this really coming together?
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This hired actor is arguing for a minute and a half that he was given the wrong phone number.
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And the former FBI agent, he goes, I don't know who this guy is, but stop.
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You know, he is the guy.
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And you're like, why is he so upset about this stuff?
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And one of the biggest things he's pissed off about is, yes, we're not telling the public
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An actor from CAA or Central Casting is reading Sean David Morton's Delphi's conspiracy.
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I think that potential is still there.
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Either it's true or the opposite side of the spectrum, to me, is just as fascinating.
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Like, what is the reason there?
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And that, to me, is equally as- maybe not equally as interesting.
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Obviously, a real alien is much more interesting.
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And that, to me, is bizarre.
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That, to me, is creepier and is more bothersome than some alien in a random underground facility
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All they care about is talking among themselves and making videotapes, making documentaries,
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So the one that raises it for me is obviously the movements of this being, and then perhaps
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The things that lower my conviction for this specific video is A, the lighting.
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And no one, why is it so dark?
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Yeah, that is not the way Victor brought that video.
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That is John Stewart.
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But the other gentleman who is.
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He touches the beam where it is.
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So, for me, that was, I think, the biggest contention is just body language of this second doctor.
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That it is such a casually shot video.
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That's not your job as part of the government audiovisual documentation, which I think is a great point.
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The fact that there is a red stool that you could buy at Kmart in Las Vegas in the 90s,
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Obviously knowing that maybe the being's not a contaminant to humans, you have a monitor that still to this day, no one knows what it is.
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The erratic heartbeat on that is very strange as well.
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The patch on this army officer, the combat patch, is like a dragon, a horse, a wing that I have gone through 3,000 military patches.
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I'm looking at, you know, I'm looking at obviously the only semblance of this is the Department of Naval Intelligence, which was on, you know, Bob's pay stubs.
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He is a schoolteacher.
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It's a naval aviator telling us the Department of Naval Intelligence, not Office Department, is real.
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And on it is a Colonel Carl Prinslow of the Department of Naval Intelligence.
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Don't tell him what it is.
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His name is Carl Prinslow.
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And what I would like to do with this conversation is to tell you people, to tell you names, facilities,
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to let you know that this is all real.
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This is going to sound like I'm going to tell a joke at a bar, but it's not.
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And John, this is, I want to say his name.
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This is like director level, not a director.
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So, but he is on the top of the food chain and we're sitting, we're talking.
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I said, is the department of Naval intelligence real?
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I'm like, is this guy dropping a dime on me?
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Is he, you know, is he going to himself?
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And I said, um, do, do, do you know, is the department of Naval intelligence a real,
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She's like, yeah, it is.
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And I, and, and again, um, I have proven, I think without beyond a shadow of a doubt that the department of Naval intelligence is real.
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Do you know, uh, is it Carl Wolf?
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And this is him in his, he's hooked up to tubes and everything.
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And he goes, no, you know, being religious, he thinks this is some demon.
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And, you know, they say, you know, we're, we're part of the same galaxy, but our mission is to monitor this planet, yada, yada.
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And that, uh, you know, he asked him, is God real?
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Uh, to me, it's the most credible thing you can ever hear from another human being, period, is when you're about to leave this planet.
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This is a hellish 11-way primary in the North Shore of Chicago.
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John McCain is brought in.
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And so I said, Mark, before everyone gets on, what is the DNI, the Department of Naval Intelligence?
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She's like, well, this is...
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There is no such thing.
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And the last thing with the DNI is he worked for NASA, Bob Osler.
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I don't know what this is.
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This is Bob Osler who worked for NASA.
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as far as the Department of Naval Intelligence is concerned,
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And Bob Lazar created a IRS taxpayer ID that another person's told is classified.
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Is Chris Ramsey and Jon Stewart on a short budget going to find 16-millimeter film,
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Again, I don't like this guy, but his name is Andrew Burlington.
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Now this is what people say.
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He got, this is what he relayed.
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You know, how does it being, or is the telepath, you know, because they put pictures in your
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This is what this stenographer, whatever, transcriber.
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Well, this is part of this, this for the past six years, people come out of the woodwork.
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It is frustrating as well, because, you know, part of you is like, you can hold this information
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I'm going to prove this is fake right now.
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I said, but this monitor, this monitor is bizarre.
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So this is a, this is a cute story and it, and I love telling it because it, it, it's charming.
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This is the research and development department of Space Labs.
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We'll tell you what we think it is.
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We have no idea what this is.
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I'm like, well, this is, this is interesting.
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This is Hewlett, uh, Hewlett Packard.
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I said, is there John Stewart?
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Is there a really old guy in your R&D department?
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And I said, sir, my name is John Stewart.
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Is there any way I can get your email and email you this clip?
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And you tell me what this is.
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This is five minutes later.
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This is after space.
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I mean, this is talk about the internet in smartphones.
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I said, this is allegedly from an underground government facility.
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Allegedly, this is monitoring the physio, physio, physio, physiology, physiology of an extraterrestrial.
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you know, heart and lung is one, one unit, um, a human physiological monitor would not work.
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This, this guy is giving me like a breadcrumb trail.
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The guy's name is Sven.
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This is a guy with his two cohorts that's just did the history of physiological monitors.
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And I simply said to myself with having a rudimentary knowledge of Hollywood is a schlocky third tier production company really going to invent this monitor that has never been created in the world.
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This is the start of the writing the checks.
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His name is Bill Mums.
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Um, but there's a, I don't think this is real, but I'm saying that on face value, but it's 16 millimeter and nobody uses 16 millimeter.
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This is, this is weird.
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It is bracketed by a metal bracket, not where Chris Ramsey and John Stewart would put four pieces of angle iron metal around a piece of glass.
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And on the one part of the, of the bracket is a protrusion, like a cartridge of a bullet, like a, you know, like the top of a missile, like somebody had a mold around that, like something went, why would you just not put four pieces of metal together?
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He goes, I think this is real.
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And I want to, I want to, this is Whitley.
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that the gray beings, that is one way or possibly a way of them communicating.
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It is kind of a communication device.
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And the ones that we have devised this green box and this is the way they communicate.
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This is one of the oldest internet programs, pre-podcast in America.
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John, I believe this is real.
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So I talked to the Jeff Rents producer pre-interview, which is standard operating procedure.
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Jeff Rents is producer.
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This is an interesting exchange.
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So this is about nine months later.
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He's obviously an old, well, I know who he is now, but he is an old person, older person in his 70s.
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What we have found out is the Defense Intelligence Agency runs all things, alien, extraterrestrial,
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And under that umbrella program is NSA, DOE, DNI, Navy, Air Force, so on and so forth.
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This is why you come here.
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And this is from, so this is like Jon Stewart sending an email from Chris Ramsey to the UFO investigator.
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And it says, this is not talking to me.
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This is so important.
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This is Jon Stewart and Chris Ramsey, two pals, communicating with each other.
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But haploloid is someone that has something that has one sexual chromosome.
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This is a haploloid.
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That is the only classification that I talk about.
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This is like the MJ-12 document where it's going to list military men's names
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My hand, Chris, my hand is shaking because I'm getting real.
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Now this list is given to Linda Molden Howell,
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And he's like, this list is from 91, right?
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Now, this is slightly funny.
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He is a cardiologist in Connecticut.
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This is Linda Moldenhow.
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he is counterintelligence.
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There is no Colonel Donovan.
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my name is John Surin
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my name is Jon Stewart.
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Is there any way possible
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A light bulb is coming on
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I know this is bizarre and crazy,
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but this is what came across my desk.
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Victor says the medical staff at S4 is chosen more for their ability to keep secrets than their medical knowledge.
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but that is happening.
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but that story is 1000% accurate.
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There is a monastery in Vermont.
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Christian sect there is the Carthusian order.
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is this person leaking?
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I know this is going to sound crazy,
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but this is what was told to us.
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Vow of silence is interesting too.
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I think this is scary,
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20 years from 08 is,
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and this is something,
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that's just the way it is,
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this is obviously super,
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this is all the president's men,
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And I think that that needs to be duly noted for anyone thinking this is like,
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Anecdotal evidence is still valuable in my opinion.
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you know who Leslie is.
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I want to tell the story because this story is about me too.
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this is my Paul Benowitz breakdown scene.
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do you think this is a game?
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this is not going to,
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My story is going to be in the New York times.
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David Grosh didn't say that video is real.
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And that is my quest right now is to find someone just got out,
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This is the guy that will,
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This is not uncommon for the government to leak something,
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that is a light deflector and it is a biofilm.
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The new designation of aliens is saber.
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And a two-star general is there.
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I need you on camera to tell me this program is real.
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This is really starting to freak me out.
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who is nicer than nice.
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nice Chris Ramsey is all of a sudden is like,
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if that document is real,
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Q is the section of S4.
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this guy is sending us
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but this is what I've been told
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the DIA is going to go over
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is the rug going to be pulled out?
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that is the unofficial name of it.
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is same with Victor.
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that is something that I was very impressed
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this is not an interview.
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is that another counterintelligence aspect?
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is definitely the way to go
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and I think this is your words,
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Is Richard Doty one of those helpers?
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Is Richard Doty someone I call for?
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The person telling you this is one person.
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is this person active intelligence?
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that is bringing me into,
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That is bringing me into talking about technology.
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That is all that the East Coast intelligence agencies care about at this point.
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So that is keeping me safe.
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but time travel is a concept.
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Or is it they just don't want you to say the word?
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requests is more about,
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I was the one to bring it up because I read the tweet and the tweet is,
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it is my opinion that it's the good guy,
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it tells me that the narrative is a,
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looking glass is important.
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is it because the other species are like us,
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is it because that's what's happening and that's what they want to cover is like the fact that they're here.
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Or is it the fact that they're like bugs and they're,
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what do you think is the reason?
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What do you think is the reason for,
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I'm just saying the Roomba vacuum cleaner is,
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It is not diminished.
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So the chairman is really the only person that has emailed me out of the blue.
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All I can say is one thing.
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Is that what they told you?
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and I think that is 90% of this draconian,
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The draconian structure that is be oppressing this secret is we don't,
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the world resides in a country that is run,
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If this gets with any other country who is nefarious,
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I just want to know if any of it is real.
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I don't know anybody who is,
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tell me this is real or not,
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Now is that stay on mission,
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Maybe it is something very delicate.
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with the end game is for somebody in the fricking government or a former military person to stand up and say this,
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this is this doctor.
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This is this doctor.
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This is the facility was at.
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I know this is real.
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I know where this body is.
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But everything they drip feed me comes to fruition or is.
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and the deal is go out.
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This is about aliens.
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One of them is when this,
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do I think the government knows who Victor is?
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there was a real catch-22 that the government is still in with this film.
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Do you know who Victor is?
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but is a jerk like Bill Moore that speaks French.
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His name is Brian Pemble.
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I want to know who Victor is.
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I want the fee that PayPal is going to charge me.
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which is a Florida birth from Victor,
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There is a John Stanton Willett who died in October of last year,
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this is John Stewart.
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Now this is when we go back to deception detective work.
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That you have come up with a name that is nowhere.
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This is an entry log into Groom Lake and the Nellis test and training range
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this is what the Groom Lake log.
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I think J is a middle initial,
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all I can say is this,
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will it is not his real name.
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And this is amazing.
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This is an interesting story.
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But if his name is Stanton Johnson.
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The best antiseptic is sunlight.
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This is a tough question.
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it would have been much harder to put a timestamp on a film than it is digitally.
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And so the timestamp that's on the Victor video is more impressive.
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Which is like my daughter's got that.
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That is what I've been told about skinny Bob.
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And I don't even think you even realize this is to my,
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SOM 01 extraterrestrial recovery manual is,
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Everything in that document is searchable.
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there is an S four at ton of power.
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S four is like just a storage facility.
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this is where you take living that aren't degenerated,
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I think I know what OPNAC and that you've been talking about is.
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says I know what the BBS is.
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Is the Russians disparted.
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No man's land is Papoose Lake.
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is like Jon Stewart's Don Quixote,
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He also is so frustrated with me.
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that he knows who Victor is.
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and if I tell you the truth of what that film is about,
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That is in an email from an 84 year old,
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is that the mission?
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and UAP Gerb is another person who's kicking doors.
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I think what you're doing is a,
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is a net positive to,
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hopefully you get to find out who Victor is.
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this personal touch is probably what got me a lot of people to help me.
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