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So what did you think about the whole UFO thing before you got in office?

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so I would interface and work a lot with the F-15 pilots at the unit.

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when I was still at the time at the Guard.

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And I remember kind of talking to some of the pilots about it,

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Granted, I also grew up in the generation of the X-Files,

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I'm like, you know, you never know if, you know, we're the only ones out there, essentially.

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Because of the way that he was discussing it.

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who basically, you know, there's a stigma within the flight community.

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Well, at the time, right, so an older platform, but he really didn't want to even talk about it.

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And I bring that up because now with our investigation and the task force that I run,

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actually, the reason why the task force was formed was because of an event that happened

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They were alleging that the Air Force was covering it up.

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But what I will tell you is the stuff that I saw at Eglin, how the military responded,

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me being, you know, a former service member, and then ultimately what I saw with the pushback

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of the military not even wanting to share with Congress information, which is a big problem

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because when you have Congress that's supposed to be the advocate and voice for the American people,

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the oversight body, and you're being denied access not just from a base commander but high level up

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at the Pentagon, even Secretary of Defense, it's a problem.

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I definitely think that there's a level of advanced technology that the U.S. government has,

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and I think that that tech can be housed within the defense contract realm,

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the ability to reproduce because it would basically be like dropping a cell phone, right,

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off back during the time of maybe caveman.

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So, like, we just don't have the tech to develop it yet.

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and watch with the congressional hearings, but I was actually able to ask some of the witnesses,

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And they keep saying interdimensional, and then when you talk about the interdimensional aspect of,

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And that stuff can kind of all sound crazy, but at the end of the day, you know, my job as an investigator

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is to receive all the information, decipher it, and then ultimately from a congressional aspect,

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if you do have contractors that are withholding information or operating outside of the purview of the federal government,

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To, I guess, break it down in simple terms is that I think that some of the tech that exists,

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I think that they can actually operate through the time spaces that we currently have.

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this gets into the deeper theories and concepts of religion and I think the history that we currently know.

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And that kind of spins off into another topic of, you know, you have the modern day Bible.

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You have this aspect of Bibles or books of the Bible that have been removed that explain and kind of touch on these topics.

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via your cell phone, via the Internet.

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And so it's really changing the way that we understand, you know, the origins of life and the spiritual reality that we know.

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So the witnesses just were told that they were interdimensional?

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Is there multiple events that go back to, I would argue, maybe even before the time of Christ that have documented this in text?

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So do I believe that the government has access to certain technology?

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I think that that's what can explain the advancements that we're seeing.

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But I also believe that this is a dangerous level of hidden information from the American people.

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Because if you have an aspect of the federal government, which I can tell you, I, with two other members of Congress,

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were denied access to information at Eglin Air Force Base pertaining to whistleblowers because of the fact.

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But we were denied access and told that we don't have security clearance or the read and authority on a special access program.

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And so how do these people have the authority to do that?

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I think it's been decades of classified secret information and also this aspect of the intelligence community that's been empowered.

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And it's kind of serendipitous with timing because when you talk about the intelligence communities and what they've done essentially to the trust in this country with the American people,

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I think this goes all the way back even into JFK with how they basically have operated outside of the purview of Congress.

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But what I can tell you is based on the photos that I've seen, I'm very confident that there's things out there that have not been created by mankind.

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What I can tell you is that when you have thousands upon thousands of people around the planet throughout time that have reported something.

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To say that those people are crazy, to say that, you know, the whole concept of even just asking the question that you might not necessarily be psychologically sound.

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We know that the U.S. government has not exactly been clean in a lot of what they've done with the American people, specifically to the topic of UFOs you had.

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If you think about the motivation they had with Project Blue Book, when J. Allen Hynek was running Project Blue Book, this specific intention was to discredit all stories.

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By the way, a lot of people might not necessarily go on to Google and look up that information, but you can actually look up the declassified reports from Project Blue Book.

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What's also interesting, though, is when we're talking about tech, right, the ability for this tech, being that it exists, to change dependence for entire governments on things like fossil fuel, etc.

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And so if you're in a position of power and you see something wrong and you're not addressing it, I think, you know, this in itself, getting the truth out there for people to decide for themselves.

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I would like to see the federal government roll out some of the stuff that we've been given access to, because I think that that information belongs in the hands of the American people.

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And it's not even just the U.S. government. I mean, there's other countries around the world that have done certain things like this.

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And the reason I say that is because up until last Congress, if you even said the word UAP or UFO, people actually told us that if we went forward with these investigations, that we were going to ruin our political careers.

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And so, you know, we're in the mindset of, well, like, why wouldn't we ask these questions?

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Right. And so in these investigations, I mean, the amount of people that will come up to us, very successful people to multiple members of Congress that believe the same thing.

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It's definitely changed in regards to the stigma that used to exist about disclosure and all this.

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And we're trying to get a screening up on Capitol Hill. But look, I think a lot of people say, well, this is a distraction from everything else happening in the country right now.

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The people that are kind of helping to divulge all this information, you have an intelligence community, you know, Tulsi Gabbard, Radcliffe, Kash Patel.

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And so part of the reason why the task force was formed pertaining to things like UAP, pertaining to things like the Jeffrey Epstein stuff, pertaining to things like the JFK, MLK and RFK investigations is because even though we don't hold declassification authority, what we're trying to do is push these agencies and be, if you will, the pit bull and the attack dog on trying to get this information released.

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And we have gotten wins specifically on the JFK stuff.

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And we're still looking to declassify and ask specifically on the UAP topic.

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What would be the rationale for keeping a photograph of a known absolute not of this world craft from the American people or from the world?

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Why would anybody think that that would be the smart thing to do is to limit the access of that information to a very small amount of people?

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I think that part of the fear is that you have advisors that think that the American people or humanity might not be able to handle it.

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And all I'm going to say is, look, and we can go into some of the books that were removed from what we know as the modern day Bible.

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But I read through the book of Enoch multiple times.

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Creations that God made, but that we were the most prized creation.

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Otherwise, they wouldn't necessarily be able to provide some of the video evidence that they have.

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But then that also brings up the question of if these things are interdimensional, which we've had witnesses testify to to members of Congress.

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And that was all publicly out there that would then bring up the whole.

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Well, if this is really transcending dimension, the power of what you say, thought, all of that.

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And then, you know, you can look into our own government's declassified documents that the CIA had on different experiments.

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I mean, you can literally last week I was going through actually on a Friday night just put my son down and I was going through some of the declassified.

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You go to CIA dot gov slash reading room and you can see all the declassified documents.

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And it was talking about, you know, the basically psychological experiments where they were trying to basically remote view and all that.

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But I think this whole idea and stigma of trying to make it sound crazy when people actually have these questions, that needs to stop, which is why the task force is in existence.

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If I was going to play devil's advocate, I would say that the government would look into that to find out if there's anything there.

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We know the technique and we want to fund some sort of a study to see if we can do it.

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And this is just wild. But there is one where I was looking through and they had basically, you know, the Coast Guard had called in.

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And so they called in one of their remote viewers and they're trying to give coordinates, coordinates of the ship and actually like basically locate these things.

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And actually is laughing because I was reading this off the website.

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But I talked to Hal Puthoff about it and he said they used it to very specifically find the location of a downed Russian craft within like a couple kilometers, which is nuts.

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If you think about the area where this thing crashed, it's like remote wilderness, the middle of nowhere.

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They dismiss that there might be frequencies that you don't tune into all the time and someone might get really good at that and they might be able to see things remotely.

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Well, I think that this gets into the bigger discussion of what do we know, right?

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There's a good podcast right now called The Autistic Tapes.

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You mean the telepathy tapes?

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Sorry, the telepathy tapes.

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But, you know, I think based on what we're seeing now, based on the fact that our own governments looked into it, based on the stuff that you were saying, I mean, you can find all this information publicly available and it's out there.

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We need to be at least open to hearing the discussion and the argument for these things.

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There's no reason why a small group of people in the government should have photo conclusive evidence that aliens are real.

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Like if you're serving in the military and you're taking a photo on your personal device or a video on your personal device, that shouldn't be the purview of the federal government.

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But the stuff that is legitimate that we are seeing the stuff that we had people testify to in our congressional hearings.

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And what's even more interesting to this is that I was actually able to talk to David Grush, who now is actually working with the task force to kind of chase down a lot of these leads in regards to some of these contractors that allegedly have this tech.

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And so, you know, again, going into, well, if this stuff wasn't real or if he wasn't telling the truth, why would there be this massively orchestrated effort to, you know, completely just disprove what he was trying to say or to discredit his actions in his testimony?

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And so it is kind of coming full circle, right, going back to what the task force has been able to find out.

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And so I've, again, had some great investigators who are working with us on oversight, as well as a lot of cooperation from the intelligence agencies.

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I think the first break in the wall was that 2017 New York Times report where they were talking about it in logical, sensible language that these things might be from another world.

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But I think that movie that you're discussing, which is The Age of Disclosure.

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It's just testimony. And at the end of it, you kind of draw this conclusion like, oh, this makes sense.

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Like this, what they're essentially saying is one of the problems is if they have been funding these secret programs, then for all these years, they've been misappropriating money.

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It's Congress going to do anything about it because it's not the first time.

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Like we have the ability. And this is the most frustrating thing.

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But as a first term member of Congress, you know, when you Joe, when you get elected to Congress, you would think that they would bring you in and they'd say, OK, this is how you do the legislation.

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They don't actually tell you how to do the legislation.

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Basically, the only rules that you're told are never vote down a rule, which is a procedural motion to bring legislation to the floor and don't really ever vote against your party, of which within the first week I broke both rules.

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And so I was on the naughty list for usual.

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But the thing is, they tell you how to do it.

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Well, they tell you basically those are the two rules and don't go against that and you won't have any issues.

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It's like people forget that you're supposed to represent, right, representative instead of just do what the party wants.

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And I don't know if you were tracking, but like I brought a vote on the former attorney general for basically refusing to testify to Congress and respond to a subpoena.

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And a lot of Congress is like, what the hell is inherent contempt?

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It hadn't been done since the early 1900s.

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And I actually read it in the rule manual and I read the rule manual twice.

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But we were able to find this out and it was a mechanism that Congress can use to actually basically send the sergeant at arms to go arrest people.

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One of the things that this documentary was calling for that I think is the only logical way to solve this is a mass amnesty for these people that misappropriated money and.

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The whistleblowers thing is crazy.

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The real crime is you keeping this secret from humanity.

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That's the real crime.

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OK, the other stuff is horseshit.

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But if you ask the general public how they feel this should go, a rational, normal person would say there's no fucking way the defense contractor should be the only people who know that we're not alone.

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And you see that they're like the Pentagon hasn't been able to pass the audit.

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What I will tell you, though, is the issue that we have with bringing forward legislation that would give mass amnesty and pardon to these people is that there are people within the intelligence community and within Congress on both sides that will try to, if you come forward with this, and I'll tell you a very prime example of this in a moment, that they will block it.

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They will stop it from even coming to the floor.

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But why do they want to keep the information secret?

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Because I think that their mouthpiece is in control of the deep state.

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Representative Tim Burchett, before I got elected, was kind of on his own little island in regards to the UAP stuff.

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And he will himself tell you that this is 100% a thing and that these defense contractors and what he believes, the Pentagon not passing on all this, these black budget programs.

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He had a piece of legislation that was supposed to enable the FAA to report and develop a different reporting procedure for UAP stuff.

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And at the time, the chairman of Intel ensured that that legislation was not brought forward, that it was stopped.

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The piece of legislation that actually passed out of the Senate really had no teeth to it.

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And then Representative Burchett drew a primary challenger that was being backed by the chairman of Intel.

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And then the little foot comes out.

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But there has a bit been a good group that's been assembled that's bicameral, meaning it's both in the House and the Senate and bipartisan, meaning both Democrats and Republicans are saying like, hey, this should actually happen.

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Are they publicly talking about not releasing the information or is all this stuff done in secrecy?

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It's done behind the scenes.

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Because if they had to do it publicly, if they had to announce their position on it publicly, it would be very damaging, I think, to anybody's political career on the right or the left.

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So about two years ago when all this kicked off, we had requested briefings from Arrow that's in charge of kind of compiling the investigative aspect of VAP stuff.

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And by the way, from the get go, I like even in talking to Arrow, I was like, this organization is literally a BS organization.

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And every interaction that we had in the SCIF, I was like, this is a nothing burger.

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They were told to not brief our group specifically on this topic and that it was from at the time members of House leadership, but they wouldn't say who.

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So it's done behind the scenes.

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But what I can tell you is that with the new administration, specifically with the FBI, specifically with ODNI, we have gotten transparency to where previously we would have been stonewalled.

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And so what I will tell you is we are going to push for the information that we saw to be out there for the American people to see.

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So do you think that the whole idea of disclosure is maybe a multiple step, very agonizing, frustratingly slow process rather than a big dump of all the information that they've had from Roswell to the Aztec one to this.

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I forget the name of it.

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But there was another during that same time period, there was a really prominent UFO recovery thing that was not as publicized as the one in Roswell.

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The big mistake with the Roswell one was the newspaper printed it.

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And so then they had to backtrack and then they had to do the press conference where they had like some scattered pieces of a weather balloon that didn't look anything like a UFO.

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And then the Air Force was like, yeah, it was nothing.

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But meanwhile, they flew the wreckage to right field.

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They flew the wreckage and Truman met them there, supposedly.

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I think it was one of the witnesses had talked about what had happened at Vandenberg Air Base where there was this thing that appeared over the base.

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And whatever had appeared over the base was basically bigger than a football field and basically a cube, a red cube with some weird thing in the center of it.

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But based on the evidence that we've seen, I don't have any reason to believe that these people are lying.

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Based on the evidence that I've seen from our own government.

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I think that there's something there that the American people deserve to have access to.

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Other governments have revealed certain information on it to think that we are the only, you know, life form on this planet in this galaxy.

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I think is a little bit crazy given, you know, the fact that I also think God exists and that there's other creations.

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Are there people that don't believe the book of Enoch was really a part of the Bible?

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I don't remember how he discussed the missing books.

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That's the guy to talk to.

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That's the guy to talk to about, you know what I mean?

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Because you have to really understand the history of the Bible to be able to figure out what's legitimate, what's not, why they put it into the New Testament.

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I had some very erroneous ideas about it until I talked to intelligent people that really, really know the history of it.

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Well, so from what I gather, and by the way, I'm not a theologian in any capacity, but just from my personal opinion on this.

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So you have the Ethiopian Orthodox text, which has, I think, 88 books of the Bible in total.

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But in the Ethiopian Orthodox text, it's basically kind of like a mainline OG version of the Bible.

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And then sometime in the fourth century, there was actually a group that came together and they removed certain books.

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And the story goes that Revelations actually had replaced Enoch.

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And so it's interesting because when you're looking kind of full circle on, you know, you hear the stuff that some of these people are talking about.

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And then you see and you read the book of Enoch, which is a wild read.

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I just I think that there's a lot that brings you to then ask the question, well, why would they remove this information if it's truly, you know, written and part of the oldest Bible in the world?

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And I'm not saying that you can't find God through the new Bible, right?

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And so what I will say is that I like to have the whole kind of picture in front of me.

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Yeah, I just don't know about the history of it.

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Is there any debate about the reality of that book?

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The Book of Enoch?

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I didn't see you guys discussing Enoch or discussing Isaiah and then the Dead Sea Scrolls and stuff like that.

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The thing about, like, what Wes Huff does that's so interesting is, like, he really understands, like, the history of the text,

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the language in which they use, the names in which they chose.

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And when he breaks it out, one of the things he told us that was the craziest was that the book of Isaiah was exactly the same in the Dead Sea Scrolls as it was a thousand years later.

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The direct translation.

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A thousand-year-old story that's exactly the same written that they didn't know there was a version of it a thousand years ago,

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And the fact that this kid, you know, a shepherd kid, was able to even find these scrolls that they were set up,

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and, you know, just has led to that point right in time where he finds this massive, basically, admission that the Bible is real.

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You can actually look into, you know, there's a new King James, and then you can actually look into the Catholic Bible as well that also has,

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they call them Apocrypha texts because the King James Bible doesn't acknowledge them,

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but there are also other books that are not considered, you know, approved by the King James.

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I don't believe that because I, at the end of the day, believe that God is responsible for our creation.

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the spiritual aspect of us really does exist.

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And if you're given a position of influence or a position of power and you're not doing the right thing for humanity,

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I think these stories, especially when you get to stories like Noah and the Ark,

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And then do you know anything about the Ethiopian church that supposedly has the Ark of the Covenant in it?

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You're in the government.

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So what's interesting is the CIA allegedly located the Ark of the Covenant.

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I think the—

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They weren't able to locate the actual—I think the New York Post did an article on it where they actually had the handwritten notes on the Ark of the Covenant location.

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Decades-old CIA documents on Ark of the Covenant resurfaced amid classified group text spat.

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No, check out—pull up the New York Post one because they actually have the handwritten notes from the remote viewer that actually documents it.

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It should be—I think it's like the New York Post.

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And so actually, if—so in Enoch, it talks about—well, if you scroll down, now that's the—you can probably click on the scribe because it'll show you all the documents from the actual declassified file.

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So in 88, they found the Ark of the Covenant?

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Okay, so scroll down, and then you'll see that—so this is like—so they're going through in the notes.

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The remote viewer.

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So you have like the different things that are describing it.

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It's like showing the peak of a building.

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So but yeah, you have like the actual here, purpose of container.

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So that would be the seraphim.

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That would be the what?

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The seraphim.

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So basically when they describe the ark and so he's going through describing it.

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So these are the hand notes for it.

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The remote viewer describes the clothing in which individuals are in the area.

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I feel like I'm describing like an Indiana Jones movie, but this is actually from the

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Is that the corner of the box?

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Of the covenant?

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He's describing if you go up and these are actually the handwritten notes on what was

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described by the remote viewer and you have to go through the entire document.

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But yeah, that's what's described surrounding the ark.

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Well, yeah, the ark of the covenant.

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They asked him to go look for the ark of the covenant.

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If you go higher up in the documents, it's over there.

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But if you ask me to go look for the ark of the covenant, like I know what I'm looking

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because you're saying show me the ark of the covenant, right?

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No, it had been under the same time period.

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The 90s, right?

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And like the first two are the best.

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Raiders of the Lost Ark was the first one.

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That's the one.

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You know what the ark looks like.

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So if I tell you, go draw me the ark, where is it at?

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me if this is the ark of the covenant?

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It says the mission is to access and describe the target identified by a coordinate, and

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The tasking is to see mission statement.

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Training target is the ark of the covenant.

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So they did say, go find us the ark of the covenant.

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The ability to keep-

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I saw that on the paper earlier.

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The target is fashioned of wood, gold, and silver.

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The target is similar in shape to AOL.

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A coffin and is decorated with the seraphim.

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This target is located somewhere in the Middle East as the language spoken by individuals

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We don't know how far it went, and I definitely have questions, but this would not be the first

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that the Ark of the Covenant had these abilities as a super weapon.

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I know, but I'm saying like the remote viewer is limited by his ability to understand the

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So somewhere in the Middle East, visuals of surrounding buildings indicated that the

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area, that the presence of mosque domes.

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Individuals in the area were clothed in virtually all white, had black hair and dark eyes.

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The target is hidden underground, dark and wet, where all aspects of the location of the

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See, the only problem I ever have with these things is if these places are all controlled

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If they found out that the Ark was there, they would fucking take it.

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That's what the Bible says.

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It says here too, it cannot be opened until the time is deemed correct.

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Once the time to open the container, the mechanisms of lock systems will be found to be fairly

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Individuals opening the container by prying or striking are destroyed by the container's

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Well, it's interesting as remember in the Bible, it always talks about how there had

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Through the use of a power unknown to us.

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You need to get the truth of that thing out there.

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Dear Director Radcliffe, as you look at the Ark of the Covenant.

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Do you know how much the world would change if you found the actual Ark of the Covenant

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I mean, there's something to be said about the Ethiopian people as a whole and going

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back to the Ethiopian Orthodox text.

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I can't exactly go to, you know, the Smithsonian and ask.

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And then in the Ethiopian perspective, he's like, first of all, your timeline's wrong.

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Well, the biblical text in modern day Christianity, it's a little bit off.

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So we use a completely separate, I think it's a 364 days out of the year.

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And he's like, but even then, so, you know, we don't have the perspective of, you know,

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we are in the end of days, et cetera.

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But, you know, the way his perspective just seemed very optimistic as opposed to pessimistic

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And all that's the same.

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The New York Post thing about that says that the viewer was identified with the target

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Being the Ark of the Covenant after all the explanation they found.

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So that whole thing at the end of it was what they were saying it was when they wrote it

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If he didn't know what he was looking for and he found something that looked like the

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Ark of the Covenant, that's pretty crazy.

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I'm just doing devil's advocate because I have no skin in the game.

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There's some extra thing that's happening with human beings, the way we're all connected

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And I think the idea that you can access information that's not local, I don't think that's that

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a digital age that kind of programs you into the rat race.

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And I think people, the more that they're kind of like, you know, there has to be more to

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And like, you know, if you have kids, I think that's like one of the things like I have,

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And it just kind of the human experience is something that, you know, you can make it

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And I think that those little things just mean you're on the right path and doing what you're

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I wonder like why some people seem to have like the idea of it being an emerging aspect

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So like discernment in the Bible, you can talk about, you know, this aspect of being, people

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But I think that because, and it's really happened, I think in the last like 40 years where people

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But when you actually go back to like, for example, we're talking just now about the arc

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of the government, the Ethiopian Orthodox text and all of this, there's more of that aspect

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That's unfortunate that there's a, and the fact that those are the type of people that always

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They're the worst type.

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That's probably the scariest part of it.

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So like the way I'll describe Congress is you ever have like a job where 80% of it,

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And then like the 10% is like really cool.

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me with the JFK investigation.

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And we actually met for the first time since 1990 with the ambassador to the Russian government.

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And I bring that up because at the time of the JFK assassination, the KGB had actually

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We never got those documents and it's my belief that the CIA actually destroyed that information

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and evidence because it would have confirmed what this, the KGB.

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And mind you, at the time, JFK was actually in talks with the president of Russia at that

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And his perspective is that he actually wanted to do a joint mission between the U.S.

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government and the Russian government to the moon.

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And there are aspects and divisions within the intelligence community.

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You obviously saw the Cold War was happening.

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you can see a lot of it in regards to there's a summit on the 15th, actually, with President

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And I think the aspect of, you know, anytime you have peace and trade, it's way better than

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war for everyone involved, for the people of Ukraine, for Russia, for the American people.

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And I think for the surrounding regions, like I recently got back from meeting with government

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And it didn't matter if and I actually met an actual member of the Moldovan government who

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And then when we had met with the European Parliament and the EU, some of them wanted

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But then the countries that had the shittiest economies, excuse my language, they were the

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But it just goes to show that the people that are going through it, the people that are

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But to be able to develop that dialogue, the end result of that meeting was the Russian

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government agreed to release their investigation onto JFK that the previous congressional task

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force in the 90s had tried to obtain from the Russian government.

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So they agreed to release that and they'll be posting it publicly for the American people

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So I'll be seeing at the same time everyone else does.

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So when I was talking to the ambassador, he's actually a history buff too.

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And so he had actually said that the Russian government, when Oswald was actually in Russia,

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Then then he shows up to the Russian embassy in Mexico City with a gun.

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And they're like, what the hell is it?

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And then we find out simultaneously as this is all happening that the CIA, kudos to Director

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Radcliffe, had actually released something called the Joe Neides file.

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He was then the CIA liaison to Congress during the investigations.

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Stonewall, their investigations was later awarded something from the CIA.

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So we have the CIA admitting that they lied to Congress, covered up the assassination or

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covered up the investigations.

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We had admissions from the Warren Commission, people that had been subject to the Warren

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Commission's investigation, saying that the Warren Commission engaged in witness intimidation.

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The single bullet theory never exists.

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The CIA admits that Lee Harvey Oswald was not a lone gunman.

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People ask, well, you know, does this mean that you'll ever get the name of who killed

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No, because I don't think the CIA was like, kill JFK on this day and use this gun and

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Like one of them was at the front of his neck.

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And actually, what's interesting is when we first launched the task force, we had left-leaning

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And they had to print the truth weeks ago.

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Is it you think you're going to erode trust in the government?

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Well, specifically to JFK for decades, the intelligence agencies were influencing what

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the print and press was doing.

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And to Geraldo Rivera, you know, when Dick Gregory brought that film on the Geraldo Rivera show

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and you got to see the Zapruder film and you got to see what looks like a shot that makes

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his head go back into the left.

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Yeah, and the reaction-

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Which would indicate he got shot from the front.

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And here's the problem.

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Like all you have to do is take your rifle off of that ledge, drop it on the ground,

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Well, there's multiple problems though because the Warren Commission actually never even put

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into the report, right?

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140 yards from the book depository with a scope?

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Yeah, he should have been able to take the shot.

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No, you could kill a guy like that and he could have been the shooter.

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He could have been one of the shooters.

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The whole idea of the magic bullet there was just because they had to account for all the

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wounds in the bodies with just three bullets.

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And they found a guy who got hit in the overpass, in the underpass rather.

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And there's more fragments in Connelly's wrist than they were missing from the bullet.

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The bullet looks almost pristine.

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Well, what's interesting is, is the Warren Commission did omit multiple female witnesses

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who were actually at the book depository that day that actually stated that they had never

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witnessed Oswald actually in the location or going down the back of the book depository.

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The president shot.

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He was under surveillance by the CIA.

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What the official narrative was, we now know is BS, right?

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Well, that I thought from the beginning.

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Yeah, but a lot of the American people did.

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That in itself, I think when you're talking about, like, why do the American people not

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It's really this fracture that starts around the Kennedy era and time frame.

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But the fact is, is that, look, I've traveled a lot.

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We are still the greatest country in the world.

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But I'm not trying to do this for like even the next 10 years.

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And I will say, had it not been for the secretaries that have been appointed by this administration,

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declassify things pertaining to JFK and the National Archives never released it.

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Like if you want trust from the American people, you release information.

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And you're hiding everything on one of the most important events in human history.

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And we're still documents that the JFK community, because mind you, I'm actually working with

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It's the one thing Democrats and Republicans both completely agree on.

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The other part is still outstanding.

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But hopefully when the documents are released from the Russian government later on this fall,

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written by the KGB.

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But at the end of the day, we have a good mosaic that's been put together with at least

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the documents that have been released with this administration.

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And for any outstanding documents, I actually have a team assigned to me from the CIA that

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But for example, after President Trump signed the executive order and Radcliffe has been

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Allegedly, there had been a document that was at the CIA that was a report from the inspector

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general that had implicated the CIA allegedly in the assassination of JFK.

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And the archives is like, we don't have any documentation of this.

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The CIA says they don't have any documentation.

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So I go to the archives because they're like, we found this weird bag, though.

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And it's in the skiff.

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And it was left by our former attorney for the archives.

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They're like, well, we don't have the key.

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Literally, I put myself in the car.

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I get in the car and I go over to the National Archives.

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We go into the skiff.

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But there was this CD-ROM of a ton of wires from the State Department.

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Some of the wires were pertaining to the Kennedy family.

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And so I think the reason why it was kept at the archives is because you're not actually

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But here I was like cutting it out of a bag at the National Archives.

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That makes sense that you would have the most top secret documents burned on CD-ROMs.

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To this day, I don't know even who left the CD-ROM.

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But the stuff that was on there was interesting.

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And I think I saw recently Tulsi had actually talked about some of the State Department wires

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And I think these are the same ones that had talked about the assassination of RFK.

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There were wires going up from the State Department prior to his assassination,

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Well, I haven't seen the actual wires themselves yet.

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But what that would imply is that the State Department knew about the assassination before

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Did you get into the MKUltra stuff at all with Jolly West?

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So I look at that on my free time, but that's not the purview of the task force.

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I did find a document on the archives website that actually ties the initial phases of the MKUltra program to Operation Paperclip.

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Because for sure the Nazis were experimenting on drugs with people.

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But for sure they were experimenting on their soldiers and on the prisoners.

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And if we took some of that and applied it, the Jack Ruby connection to it is that Jolly West went to visit Jack Ruby after he shot Lee Harvey Oswald.

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Most likely got dosed the fuck with acid.

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It doesn't, like, he went so far off the deep end.

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And Jolly West was, he was involved with the Manson family thing.

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The CIA was running brothels.

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And they would get these Johns to come in with the prostitutes.

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And the prostitutes would give them acid.

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You know, look what the government did.

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So you have, like, the perfect group of people to victimize and just try stuff on.

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Like, the CIA had to do payouts.

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Well, it was the Freedom of Information Act.

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Tom O'Neill, who wrote the book Chaos, goes into great detail about this.

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It's all about the Manson family and MKUltra.

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The CIA is like, where are we accessing?

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wasting taxpayer dollars has been arguably one of the coolest task force in Congress, I think.

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I think the tide is turning on that kind of thinking, that these conspiracy theories are silly to pursue.

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Or dole it out to the nuttiest people on the Internet.

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Dole it out to the craziest people.

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the other thing's attached to it so the other thing looks stupid too.

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Like, the one thing I wanted to do when I first got the task force is open up a skiff

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And I can tell you that we've now had the skiff –

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What was the first conversation like when the door shuts and you're like,

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oh, boy, I'm going to get the goods?

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Well, the problem is I've reached out to some of the biggest names in UFO lore, okay?

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And we call it skiff flu meaning like the day that the skiff was open that we reserved it.

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They get sick or the dog dies.

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Maybe someone let them know that – maybe someone hung something on their door in the middle of the night.

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But maybe those people don't feel like the government's going to protect them.

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That is one of the biggest things that we've had people bring up is that you're a whistleblower,

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And the individual that was actually told to us by David Grush is actually a former combat controller.

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So we knew the guy via some friends.

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So we knew that the guy wasn't nuts or crazy.

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But that's the problem.

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What I was talking about is what's being advocated in the documentary that to me makes perfect sense is mass amnesty.

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Now, here's the bad part.

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With the back engineering potential.

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I mean, and also, the competitive advantage you would give company A, if this company gets access to a downed craft that can traverse space and time,

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that can move through the universe instantaneously, that utilizes an unknown element, that has some unknown process of defying gravity.

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Everything is done with the mind of the pilot.

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If this is the truth, if this is what they're saying, and these are the kind of things they find, that getting to a contractor would be a massive advantage over the other contractor that also should be on equal standing with the government.

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Like, are they the only ones who get to know it?

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And then how do private contractors, how are they the gatekeepers of the most important information in the world, if it's true?

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saying that the Air Force was covering up information regarding to UAP activity in the panel handle, and he wanted us to go with him to investigate.

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So we show up at Eglin Air Force Base, we're met by the base commander.

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Previous tests even showing up on this congressional delegation to investigate, the Pentagon had tried to cancel the meeting.

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And you can't, so this was under the last administration, so you can't just cancel a meeting and say you can't come to the base.

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So Gates actually was on House Armed Services at the time that oversees the U.S. military.

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And so Gates got the chairman involved, calls back onto the Pentagon, gets this meeting on the books.

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And, you know, we told them specifically we want to see information on UAPs, we want to see the evidence,

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and we want to have the pilots that saw these aircraft, whatever they are, or these spacecraft,

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They keep BS-ing us about the Chinese spy balloon.

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And ultimately, we were in the SCIF.

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We got into a verbal disagreement with the base commander at the time,

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who was denying us access to the pilots and to the information,

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and said that we didn't have the authorization.

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In the SCIF, there was many members of the intelligence community.

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We then go back upstairs to the conference room and proceed to, again, basically have it out with this commander.

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And Representative Burchett said, you know, we can do this the easy way or the hard way.

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Kind of, but at the time, like—

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Yeah, you use the way or the hard way.

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Easy way or the hard way.

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And if it's the hard way, you're going to have, you know, Representative Gates and Luna in DC questioning you,

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so I suggest you do it the easy way.

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So he actually, in the middle of the meeting, you know, we were kind of holding his feet to the fire on it.

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And then in the middle of our meeting, he gets up and leaves the room.

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Like, I have to go to the restroom or something.

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oh, the base commander's been authorized to go and leave to Georgia.

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Like, in the middle of a congressional delegation?

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But here's the problem.

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He can't—even if it was someone at the—like, the Secretary of Defense, right?

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Because at the time, this got pretty high level.

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He still, at the end of the day, you're in the military.

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How our government functions is the military does not decide what the civilian sector and

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I was in the military.

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I've never seen, like, in the middle of a congressional delegation—these are big deals.

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Like, in the middle of the meeting?

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What state were you in at the time?

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Like, what the hell are you doing in Georgia in the middle of a congressional delegation?

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See, this is the problem that I have with all this stuff.

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That people that have that information should give that information to the general public.

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You know the Hal Puthoff stuff?

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Hal Puthoff, during the Bush administration, was assigned—he was one of many scientists,

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and this is also in the age of disclosure.

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And then the pros, like, you know, whatever the positive aspects of it would be.

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And every single scientist said that the cons outweighed the pros, and he said, I would

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government, completely wreck any idea that the people that are in charge of us have any

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possible through the universe, appear out of nowhere, stop all of our nuclear programs,

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of the questions, the discussions that have been happening, not just here, but I think

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But would you believe it if you found out that was the information that the government

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Maybe that's what's confusing about the Bible.

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But I mean, the Old Testament, if you go back to the oldest works of the Bible, weren't

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to predate even the time of Genesis and talk.

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The nuttiest one is Ezekiel.

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You can look up the fourth century.

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It was discluded as, I guess, since the fifth century.

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It says the Jewish scribes or the priests didn't believe, the rabbis didn't believe it

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But what's interesting is, is that even if that's the case, though, you have the Ethiopian

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Orthodox Church that actually there's Ethiopian Jews and that's considered the most pure form

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of the Bible.

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So like you actually have a division of like the Ethiopian Jewish class that actually recognized

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The main reason for the Jewish rejection of the book is that it's inconsistent with the

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teachings of the Torah.

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From the standpoint of rabbinic, how do you say that?

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The book is considered to be heretical.

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Another reason for the exclusion of the text might be the textual nature of several early

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sections of the book that make use of material from the Torah.

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The context, particularly detailed descriptions of fallen angels would also be reason for rejection

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from the Hebrew canon at this period.

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As is illustrated by the comments of Tripfo, the Jew, when debating Justin Martyr on this

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subject, the utterances of God are holy, but your expositions are mere contrivances,

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But that's the thing is it's a disagreement in religion and perspective, but they should

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And so it's interesting because then you have the evolution of what the King James Bible is.

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But you even have the Catholic Bible that has...

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And you have the Catholic Bible that had books that were taken out.

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And then we have the King James.

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So I'm not saying that if you read the King James, you're not getting...

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The problem is like all these years later, you're dealing with the repercussions of that.

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Like imagine a world in which if Enoch was left in the Bible and people were like,

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Like explain the nuttiness of the book of Enoch to people.

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So if you read it, it talks about the fall of angels, thus creating really the precursor

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of civilization that led to the first flood.

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I think that when you even go into potentially the technology that was given to mankind by

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these angels, it talks about the hidden beliefs and theories in astronomy, et cetera,

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the world that kind of say the same thing.

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This is kind of the OG text that leads to those stories that we're hearing from many

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religions around the world.

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that essentially were responsible for basically damning mankind to the flood.

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And you talk about it out loud and it sounds crazy, but that's what the book says.

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And then the fact that it was taken out and then it's papooed, yet you have one of the

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oldest religions in the world via the Ethiopians that actually still have it.

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You have, you know, the Catholic church that has books that are missing out of the King

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pertaining to UAPs, whatever they might be, the origins.

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So the question is with all this stuff is what was the original truth that they were trying

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the language?

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One of the things that he did is he taught himself ancient Hebrew so he could read the

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If you're playing the telephone game, you want to be second.

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And whoever was writing it down the earliest, that's probably you're closer to their depictions

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But boy, when you go to the really old stuff, you know, the really old stuff is very strange.

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The Orthodox, I'm telling you, the Ethiopian Orthodox Bible, I actually had a staffer that

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And actually when I did my swearing in, I actually did my swearing in on the Ethiopian Orthodox

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It's, you know, I would wonder what the impact to all these religions would be if we had

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You're holding back the understanding of these intelligent life forms that they are not the

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apex of this planet, nor are they anywhere close to the peak of the intelligence that's

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available out there in the universe.

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What happens to the Mormons?

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So I, by the way, I'm by no means saying that, you know, aliens are God.

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But I think that brings us back to the fundamental question on do you believe that God exists?

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Because if you do, then you realize that our freedom, you know, the freedom of choice

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And I think that that goes back to the fundamental principles of like what we believe in true

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But I think even the Catholic churches acknowledge the idea that if there is intelligent life somewhere

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Maybe God just didn't tell you about the neighbors.

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Well, it does say in Enoch and then also, too, I think in Genesis that the stars cried

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And this is the issue with these rabbis, right?

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Just the same thing as the UFO stuff.

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The UFO stuff.

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No one should be the gatekeeper of information.

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And hence the transparency on the information.

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I think we're probably going to be responsible for like the Book of Enoch sales probably increasing

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I mean, I'm sure there's some interpretations of the Dead Sea Scrolls that I could sludge

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But the thing about it is like I'd really love to be able to read it in Aramaic.

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I just don't have the fucking time to do that.

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But what I'm saying is I really like the Strassman idea of learning ancient Hebrew to be able

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to read the source material.

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that believe in the Younger Dryas Impact Theory...

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You know, the Bible was written a couple thousand years ago.

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These people that are talking about the Younger Dryas Impact Theory are talking about a cataclysmic

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Well, Plato talks about it, hearing it from Egyptian teachers and then going back to the

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I think that's probably where the oral traditions come from.

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The oral traditions come from complete collapse of society, rebuild over time, takes forever,

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and then a re-understanding of what you know to be true about the origin of man and the birth

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of the universe and why we're here.

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Well, so I actually, when I was in my early 20s, I actually went to Egypt to see the megalithic

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And then I went to Turkey to see the Sumerian inscriptions and carvings and what they thought

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the ancient Sumerian gods were, the Anunnaki, all of that.

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What's interesting is in Enoch, it actually has reference to the Anunnaki, but a different,

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I think it's like Anu is like the term, the root term that's used for it.

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Have you read the Zechariah's Hitchin stuff?

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Yeah, that's the most fun.

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the fall of mankind and the angels with, you know, and this is Christian theology, right?

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That would be, I think, a good starting point for what potentially the Anunnaki were.

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Yeah, God probably didn't like that they were coming around and taking the ancient hominids

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It's probably against the code of the universe.

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You know, that's our job at the same sense in that we have to ensure that if we are to

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the mandatory minimums for child predators are not that high in this country.

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And so Congress can actually increase the mandatory minimums.

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Some people are against the death penalty.

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help to arrange the meeting.

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I mean, you're involved in the disclosure of things that have questioned, that people

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I mean, these are, those are the huge questions that exist from the 1960s on.

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Those are the big ones.

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I did say recently, so the MLK documents just came out and we're wrapping up our JFK investigation.

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So after we finalize the JFK investigation, we're putting out an official congressional

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But I think a lot of the MLK family was actually very concerned that we were going to go into

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And that's not the objective of the task force.

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It's to specifically expose what the government was doing.

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If they knew about the potential threats and people say, well, why do we care about, I constantly

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And when you know if the CIA was operating outside the purview of the federal government,

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the FOIA Act, all this stuff, then we have to be able to put forward legislation to ensure

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And what's been very interesting and almost serendipitous about the whole JFK investigation

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is you have President Trump now in the second term that's released all this information.

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within these agencies and then deep-state actors that try to block the efforts for release.

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Now you're seeing kind of a flush of the system.

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And even though information hasn't come out as fast as we would like it to, the fact that

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been in office for, you know, and the reason I say that I don't even want to do this for

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the next 10 years is because everyone, even people I've looked up to, after a certain amount

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that's how our founding fathers wanted us to do is like pass the torch, stand up the

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was like this massive speaker's fight about confirming Kevin McCarthy as a speaker of the

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We need to reform the institution and the way that we function because power had been

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consolidated within the speaker's position.

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That bill's supposed to come to the floor.

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And the mainstream media for a while was like, you guys are disrupting the process.

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Well, what the hell do you want Congress to do?

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And so we were able to reform the institution.

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But one of the things that we had negotiated with the former speaker was we wanted a vote

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And so now because of our very slim majority, one of the most slim majorities in U.S. history,

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we have the ability to do something called a discharge petition.

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that bill to the floor.

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And then the other one is banning insider trading.

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Well, it's not, you know, there was a comms director meeting for the entire GOP.

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It's crazy how like openly corrupt that part of the business is.

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But the thing is, once you've become accustomed to be able to do something and you've been

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information that are affecting markets and then you're on the committee that has purview

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Seems like you have a little more than the average person.

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The stock market is kind of gambling.

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Like the UFC doesn't even allow me to gamble and I can't even affect the outcome.

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I, the inside information that I have, anybody could have.

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Yeah, I was told if I forced a vote that I was going to cost us the Republic is what I

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But the thing about the insider trading thing is the amount of money is so egregious.

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Wasn't that the...

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No, she's just the poster lady, unfortunately.

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It's all across the board.

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It's the whole thing.

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the one thing.

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I actually was reading an article and the local press are like, Rep Loon is trying to

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And so I'm always the kind of redheaded stepchild usually, especially in dumb circles.

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Did you ask her what the rest of you are wrong about?

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I can tell you that when I first launched the task force, people were like, she's an

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able to produce wins and we are getting full cooperation from the executive branch.

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So we're just simply investigating the findings, collecting the information and pressuring

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What's interesting though is it goes back to the, you never want to get in trouble in a

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of like destroying the Republic again.

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I said, I don't think that that's the case.

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This is the thing.

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And they had someone that had worked at the firm that had also worked with like McDonald's

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Social media at the time was kind of just resurfacing is if you want to be kind of influential,

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And I think Trump really kind of refined that was kind of one of the leading figures in that,

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And we found that out that Twitter 1.0 was coordinating with the Department of Homeland Security.

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were using it on the American people to censor information specifically on COVID on January

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You still have censorship issues in places like the EU.

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The one thing that's been interesting is in our investigation.

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the American people specifically on immigration.

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I actually called them the Timu riots, like the Timu Chinese app, because it came out via

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And she actually tracked down the funding line.

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And what was happening was the Chinese government was basically propping up this billionaire,

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And they were actually funding a lot of these riot pop-ups in the area.

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So you had people that were being used, divided, for example, on the immigration topic.

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when in actuality the financial ties was actually coming from the CCP.

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So the Chinese government on many occasions, and it's not uncommon within Congress to know,

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The same individual, Neville Singham, actually, once we got this information, we sent a request

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to the Treasury Department to freeze his assets unless he comes to testify to Congress.

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So like, I understand the immigration, the border, I like, understand all arguments, because

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actually put us as like second tier as opposed to the Chinese government.

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And I do think that the Chinese government in their execution has been very, very specific

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But at the same time, if you look at what President Trump was doing, he was actually trying

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taking place at the same time and almost got no coverage.

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in the mainstream media.

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And then at the same time, the tariff war was taking place.

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on the mainstream media, the media will always try to amplify something because it's rage-baiting

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But when you actually look at where the funding stream is coming from, it actually goes back

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And this is not the only incident where they try to drive a wedge between Americans and

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So in 2016, now the largest voting minority in the country are Hispanic Americans specifically

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And it would be specifically probably on the immigration topic to try to race bait people.

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But then you have this aspect of the same guy, Neville Singham.

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And this one specifically is on the Israel versus Palestine issue.

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So it's a multifaceted approach using minority classes in order to actually push the end

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And also, too, you can actually look on the flyers for these organizations.

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But that's they don't actually realize the more nefarious perspective of what's happening

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behind the scenes.

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But also it was in reaction to some of the ICE raids.

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I mean, it was it was a visceral reaction that a lot of people had the idea of people just

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thought, great, we're going to get rid of the gang members.

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But the question is, why didn't they do it then during why did these riots and why did

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But to your point, so how do you fix something like the immigration system as a whole, right?

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All of the above, right?

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But the thing that freaks people out is how many corporations rely on illegal labor?

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I'd watched this documentary about the slaughterhouses.

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And the lobbyist from Tyson Chicken Corporation contacted my chief of staff at the time and

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I don't care where you're on the spectrum.

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Someone actually said to him that they don't want to stop the illegal immigration because

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And so going back to how do you fix this is one of the top cases that I handle aside from

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Like, have you been victimized by the federal government?

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So specifically on immigration cases, like if you've had an issue with the State Department

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And that's part of the problem is there's been such an influx and such a bog down of the

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actual system that our actual system is not functioning at the capacity that it should

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to actually help people come here the correct way.

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And if you want to immigrate to the United States, the application, one of the things

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they ask you is, are you an expert in something where people in the United States can't do it?

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That guy doesn't have the money to hire a lawyer.

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citizen that's already here doing the exact same job?

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And I have heard, okay, on the floor, these are conversations between members that to a

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the ag industry that actually members of that committee don't want that because they know

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that the farmers are actually heavily relying on some of these illegals to work.

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And construction crews and fill in the blanks.

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So isn't the solution force people to pay everybody exactly the same way?

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Well, yeah, because you don't have the decrease in wages.

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However, I think the bigger problem that we have here though, is that at least specifically

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in my opinion, they don't want a solution for, they do it intentionally with the understanding

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to, I would say, pause, let the system run through, take everyone in, vet them, make

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But then the system allows time for it to actually catch up to itself and then you can

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What you just said was so scary that they don't want to resolve it because they want the issue

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Because anytime anything ever happens, one of the first things they do is like, please

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All the people that are very reactionary are like, I can't believe this is happening.

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And you know what's crazy is most elected officials might send out that email, but the email

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That's like usually the average rep share.

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And it's like, I'm in the wrong business.

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That's the scariest thing about nonprofits is how much profit they make.

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It's really weird when you see the salaries of some of these people that are nonprofits.

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Or what's going on with the LA fire thing, you know, where they can't figure out where

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all the money went.

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We'll give it to the victims.

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It's really weird, but it exposes the legality of these systems.

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It's legal for them to operate like that where, you know, an enormous percentage of all the

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And they do the fine print.

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But I think we need to work alongside it because there's this aspect of AI that removes the

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And these are like the...

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True, but the U.S. history of drone use is no better than what you just described.

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Right, but civilian casualties are the majority of deaths from drones.

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I would say, based on the people that I've talked with and interacted, it's definitely

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happened in the past and it's definitely problematic.

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But it's the majority.

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The majority of the people that died were civilians.

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They weren't the intended targets.

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You have LOAC, so there's massive investigations with the JAGs, et cetera, that get involved in

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So, like, the human would be the final step in authority.

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So, the AI would rank it.

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where you can have humans involved in the final step.

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Well, the most terrifying solution is not that.

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Don't use the missiles.

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It flies through the house and, like, lands on the dude's head and blows up.

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Don't freak me out too much because the Chinese have a little spy drone that's, like, literally

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There's no way the Chinese are the only ones who do it, especially if they really have been

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back-engineering UFOs for the last 40, 50 years.

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And I say that because if that were the case, then they would be the world superpower.

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But I also think that even though we probably have the best military contractors, we also

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get infiltrated by the Chinese government and the Russian government all the time.

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They get information back to the CCP.

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I forget what the corporation was, but the power went down.

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And so all these CCP people panicked because they were supposed to send the information back.

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The University of Michigan has now had, like, what, two?

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It's like all over the country.

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Like, Yuri Bespinov talked about this, that Russia was doing this in the 1980s.

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The one thing that's been interesting is, and a lot of people aren't talking about, there's one representative member, Republican from California, that's addressing it.

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And so technically they're U.S. citizens, but they are being totally raised with the ideology and perspective of the Chinese government.

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Working for the Chinese government.

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And then we sell the Chinese government land around our military bases.

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And I'm like, yeah, but the Chinese government literally wants to eliminate the West as we know it.

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And also, too, by the way, it's not like you're just, like, buying a military installation.

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Like, Mike Baker talked about this on the podcast, that they sell cell phone towers.

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And then the Huawei stuff was crazy because it actually had, like, a third-party access built into some of their systems.

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And a lot of the tech that they actually sell here, whether it's to our law enforcement, so, like, anytime you have specifically, I would say, like, within even our craning and, like, our actual shipping operations, those things are sending signals back home.

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We just got to stay at the course.

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They pulled us out in the 70s for manufacturing.

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And the United States are trying to actually move that over.

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There's something about the way Grok AI shows up and he's saying that their algorithm is essentially rigged where open AI is like Grok AI is never featured.

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Elon Musk says Apple is rigging the App Store for ChatGPT.

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The tech mogul is threatening immediate legal action, accusing the iPhone maker of unequivocal antitrust violation designed to favor his AI rival.

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Oh, is his AI rival the Sam Altman free guy?

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Context, 2025, DeepSeq reached number one and DeepSeq's the Japanese, the Chinese one, right?

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Oh, and DeepSeq's freaky about some of the stuff that it can do.

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Both of these occurred after the open AI Apple partnership announced on June 10th, 2024.

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But what about the United States?

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Because the United States is the biggest market when it comes to like, we're probably the highest percentage of people that use Apple in the world.

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But the point is, like, the App Store in America, that is the monopoly in this country if you want to get an app.

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Not a monopoly, but the leader, the head leader.

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To be honest with you, I've only ever had an iPhone, and so that's the only platform I've ever used.

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The Android's way better than it used to be.

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I had it back in the day, but it's right there where an iPhone is right now, just different, and gives you a lot more access to stuff.

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I can tell you that, you know, given my job and some of this stuff, I am totally freaked out by having an iPhone, and I look forward to the day where I don't have to have a phone.

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What is that alternative system that they use with Pixel phones that now, at least the French government, when they find people that have Google phones, they immediately look at that person as a point of interest?

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I'm sure the GPS sucks.

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So there's multiple different OSes that people use outside of the Google, but you can only use it on Android phones, and a lot of people use it on Pixel phones.

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The Asian gentleman who has that, Rob Braxton.

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FISA, in the way that it can surveillance Americans, is pretty freaky.

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Oh, play for the team.

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I am playing for the team, but it's just not the DC team.

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Like, whatever happened to the representative of the people?

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It's probably hard to stay the course.

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So some of the best representatives, best even people in government, are the ones that did not have to do this job.

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Because if you're giving up something to come here, it means that you're doing it for the right reasons.

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If you have nothing to gain from this position and this is the only thing you've ever wanted to be, you're usually not the best person for that job.

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It's like when a certain bill comes up, if I'm voting against it, you have planted stories in the press.

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You definitely go crazy if you read all the bots.

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Don't fight with the bots.

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Don't fight with the bots.

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I think it's hilarious that he still wears the hoodie and the shorts.

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He is in the Senate.

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But the point is that he's kind of a character.

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And what I'll tell you is oversight tends to bring out the characters for sure.

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So there was a partner bill in the Senate with Bernie Sanders and I think Josh Hawley to cap

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So if you're taking a government bailout and you're essentially operating off the good

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will of the federal government, then you should be held as standard.

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people will take out, you know, a credit or max out their credit cards for the rest of

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They're paying back the debt.

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So this is like the more populist representation where you see both the right and the left kind

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the more moderate Republican.

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basically for the rest of their life.

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If she's telling the truth, and I believe she is, that's absolutely insane that you could

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because they're always functioning in the debt.

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It's not right that you do that to an 18-year-old kid and saddle them down like that for the rest

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But I had to join the military.

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I paid for my college using the GI Bill.

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given the opportunity to pay back the debt?

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But that's a piece of legislation that should be on the floor and that it's not.

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And it's not on the floor-

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In an ideal country where you really care about the people and you really want more success

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And if these certain people from different parts of the country don't seem to be getting

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And by the time I graduated, I went to six high schools and an adult school.

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And what I will say is that one of the high schools I went to-

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And what the LA Unified School District was doing at the time is they were actually busing

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And at the time, specifically in the early 2000s, there was a big issue with the black

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And so what was happening outside in the neighborhoods was carrying on into the school districts.

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And when you have gang activity and kids, the only opportunity that they have is being

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They're never going to have the opportunity.

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And so that carries on into the education system.

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But being able to give students or their parents the ability to send them to good schools without

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So there was a kid that was shot in the parking lot of my school and shot and killed.

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You had actually pulled up the article, Venice High School School Shooting.

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So when I was 19, I joined the military.

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That affects the vibe of the place.

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Like Venice in the 90s was really cool.

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Well, in the early 2000s, it was cool too.

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I swear like part of the reason why I'm such a huge advocate for like standing up to bullies

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Back in the day.

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I had a buddy of mine who lived there in the park where he used to take his kid.

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I joined the military at 19.

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And I met a lot of other people in the military who like grew up in inner city Chicago or wherever

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I think that was one of the most important things about Obama becoming president.

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We heard like, oh, no, a guy comes from a single mom and he became the president of the

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I had actually even gotten my DNA done to like prove that I'm Hispanic because of the

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Isn't that funny that that's the time where the left is allowed to be racist?

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When people would ask me, actually mentioned that to a reporter actually, because of the

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It's like, it goes in the face of what's supposed to be about their principles.

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And the idea that they're going to attack you and say you're pretending to be Hispanic

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And also too, if I were on the other side, I'd probably be like a rock star.

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I gave them all the evidence and they actually ended up writing an article on me called the

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in the world.

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It's it was done, though, because of the fact that people like me specifically don't meet

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You know, progressives will allow like the most devious behaviors from their side.

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Republicans are the same thing.

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The most devious shit as long as it's beneficial to their side.

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You could disagree with someone, don't think they're the right person for the job, vote

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It was I think it was actually for my mom, especially like I've I've been through the

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We shouldn't be happy if it's done against the side that's ideologically opposed to us.

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You know, we don't you don't have to just be a twat all the time.

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I prefer debating on ideology tends to be the best.

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It's kind of like the same thing.

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It was it's a lot interesting how Congress functions when the cameras are off.

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So social media has been both a blessing and a curse in this social media sphere because in the political sphere, because you can get your information out directly to the American people using it and refute bad information.

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But then there's also this aspect of like, I wish people could see the conversations that take place behind the scenes because it wouldn't be so inflammatory.

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Well, full transparency will come with the chip.

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Anna, just put the chip in your brain.

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Don't take the chip.

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So when I first started out in politics, I started out as, so I joined the military at 19.

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And then I kid you not, like the day before I was supposed to leave, I got recruited to work for a nonprofit to basically help lead out Hispanic activism nationally.

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And so I was talking about stuff happening, but it was more the commentary on inflammatory things.

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And I actually requested the State Department's report.

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I was working with the nonprofit at the time.

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And I realized that they only wanted me to talk about what was getting them the ratings.

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So if I want to change the discussion, I have to go to Washington to do it.

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And so when I'm done in office, I'm going to help recruit younger candidates that have the ideological perspective that I do to run them.

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And then I'm going to help do things for them behind the scenes to help get them in.

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You're going to be a mastermind behind the scenes.

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I'm a member of the House Democracy Partnership Institute.

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I've gone to a lot of countries and we still have the best system.

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It's also a mess because the people that have been in positions of power for so long are so set in their ways and are so deeply ingrained in the system.

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And all the tentacles of all these different special interests and all the money that's all connected to all these decisions is so-

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So like going back to kind of the declassification efforts that we've been working on.

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For the first time in U.S. history, you have an aspect of the government that's being transparent and releasing information.

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But that is only possible because the right people with the right mindset were appointed in those agencies to be able to try to force the system to do something.

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But there's this aspect of that's just the executive branch, but you have the legislative branch.

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And the legislative branch needs younger people that want to do this because they truly believe in fixing the system.

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And going back to kind of like those like little quantum breadcrumbs, I've had enough stuff happen where I know I'm on the right path.

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I don't know, but not definitely in the next 10 years.

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Joe Rogan Experience #2365 - Rep. Anna Paulina Luna